Home and Auto Need vehicle opinions - Jeep Grand Cherokee

**Bugeater** · 03-04-2013, 10:23 AM

So I'm thinking about breaking my streak of buying minivans at 5, and am considering a small SUV. I like the style of the 99-02 years, and they're in my price range.

Anyone have experiences with these? There seems to be a lot of them out there. I'm leaning towards one with the IL 6 cyl since it probably does better on gas and the V8 is really crammed in there and likely a bitch to work on.

Thoughts?

stonedstooge · 03-04-2013, 10:28 AM

This one looks good

http://static.cargurus.com/images/si...pic-20068.jpeg

**gblowfish** · 03-04-2013, 10:29 AM

I have a 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 225,000 miles. I have the 4.0 liter straight six engine.

All the old beat to shit Jeeps you see on the road (even the old square body Cherokees) have that straight six engine. That engine design goes all the was back to the original Hudson Hornet automobile. Except now, they're fuel injected.

Jeeps are hard on batteries, brakes and are prone to electrical issues. I've replaced three of the four power window motors, had problems with the instrument cluster for windows and mirrors on the driver door, had to put in a new seat -the power seat frame is notorious for breaking, bad welds. But the power train has been great, and haven't had any spots on the body rust through.

Gas mileage on a six is actually just a couple miles better than a V8, but the engine is much more reliable and easier to work on.

Unless you plan to tow something, you really don't need the V8.

**Bugeater** · 03-04-2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

This one looks good

http://static.cargurus.com/images/si...pic-20068.jpeg

Dude, you have no idea how much I wish I was buying that instead.

**gblowfish** · 03-04-2013, 10:31 AM

Oh, I had to rebuild the rear axle on mine twice. Once at 80,000 miles, and again at 200,000 miles. This last time it cost about $700.

**Bugeater** · 03-04-2013, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

I have a 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 225,000 miles. I have the 4.0 liter straight six engine.

All the old beat to shit Jeeps you see on the road (even the old square body Cherokees) have that straight six engine. That engine design goes all the was back to the original Hudson Hornet automobile. Except now, they're fuel injected.

Jeeps are hard on batteries, brakes and are prone to electrical issues. I've replaced three of the four power window motors, had problems with the instrument cluster for windows and mirrors on the driver door, had to put in a new seat -the power seat frame is notorious for breaking, bad welds. But the power train has been great, and haven't had any spots on the body rust through.

Gas mileage on a six is actually just a couple miles better than a V8, but the engine is much more reliable and easier to work on.

Unless you plan to tow something, you really don't need the V8.

225k and no transmission issues? That's what really scares me with any Chrysler product.

The electrical gremlins can be frustrating too, I've fought them with my latest Caravan. The must be a ChryCo thing as well.

**gblowfish** · 03-04-2013, 10:35 AM

Luckily, my transmission has been OK. I've had it serviced a couple times by Certified, but just as routine maintenance.

I had a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee before the 2002 I own now. It got a motor mount broken, and I had to get that fixed. I sold it with about 150,000 miles on it. The guy who bought it in 2002 is still driving it. I see it every once in awhile out here in my home town.

Exoter175 · 03-04-2013, 11:29 AM

Stay away from the V8 in any Jeep, and if you must buy a jeep, buy a 4 liter inline 6 and nothing else.

Plan to fix the following:
-Radiator hoses
-Anything electrical

Plan to replace/change frequently:
-Spark Plugs
-Front/Rear Diff fluids

Enjoy the following:
-Driving in Snow
-Driving on Ice
-Driving through a creek
-Rock Crawling
-Your new assortment of Tow Chains, Hooks, and Ropes
-Your friends loving you in snow season for free pull outs
-Lots of hi-fives for owning a 4 liter inline 6 jeep

What you wont' enjoy:
-Gas Mileage
-Squeaks and rattles
-Having friends call you all the time to pull them out

**Bugeater** · 03-04-2013, 11:37 AM

Ugh. How bad of gas mileage are we talking here?

**Buehler445** · 03-04-2013, 11:41 AM

My biggest problem with Jeeps is they never have enough room to cram my big ass in them. I've never once ridden in a Jeep with adequate leg room. IIRC, you're not that much shorter than I am. Make sure you drive one good and far before you cut the check.

Deberg_1990 · 03-04-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Ugh. How bad of gas mileage are we talking here?

Jeeps have never been known for their good gas mileage.

**gblowfish** · 03-04-2013, 11:43 AM

On my 2002, I usually get about 18 city, about 21 highway. Mine is leaking a little bit of oil now, lose about 1/2 quart every 5,000 miles. No biggie.

Brock · 03-04-2013, 11:43 AM

They're solid. As others have said, the inline six is the way to go.

burt · 03-04-2013, 11:46 AM

All great and valid advice! PLUS on a Jeep...a little damage only gives it character!!

Frosty · 03-04-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

225k and no transmission issues? That's what really scares me with any Chrysler product.

On the regular Cherokees, the auto tranny is an Aisin transmission and is really solid (also used in some Toyota pickups of that vintage). Don't know if that's the case with the Grand Cherokees with the 4.0L, though.

03-04-2013, 10:23 AM
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03-04-2013, 10:28 AM	#2
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03-04-2013, 10:29 AM	#3
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17686178 VARSITY	I have a 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 225,000 miles. I have the 4.0 liter straight six engine. All the old beat to shit Jeeps you see on the road (even the old square body Cherokees) have that straight six engine. That engine design goes all the was back to the original Hudson Hornet automobile. Except now, they're fuel injected. Jeeps are hard on batteries, brakes and are prone to electrical issues. I've replaced three of the four power window motors, had problems with the instrument cluster for windows and mirrors on the driver door, had to put in a new seat -the power seat frame is notorious for breaking, bad welds. But the power train has been great, and haven't had any spots on the body rust through. Gas mileage on a six is actually just a couple miles better than a V8, but the engine is much more reliable and easier to work on. Unless you plan to tow something, you really don't need the V8.
Posts: 40,830

03-04-2013, 10:31 AM	#5
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17686178 VARSITY	Oh, I had to rebuild the rear axle on mine twice. Once at 80,000 miles, and again at 200,000 miles. This last time it cost about $700.
Posts: 40,830

03-04-2013, 10:35 AM	#7
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17686178 VARSITY	Luckily, my transmission has been OK. I've had it serviced a couple times by Certified, but just as routine maintenance. I had a 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee before the 2002 I own now. It got a motor mount broken, and I had to get that fixed. I sold it with about 150,000 miles on it. The guy who bought it in 2002 is still driving it. I see it every once in awhile out here in my home town.
Posts: 40,830

03-04-2013, 11:29 AM	#8
Exoter175 Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $10003166	Stay away from the V8 in any Jeep, and if you must buy a jeep, buy a 4 liter inline 6 and nothing else. Plan to fix the following: -Radiator hoses -Anything electrical Plan to replace/change frequently: -Spark Plugs -Front/Rear Diff fluids Enjoy the following: -Driving in Snow -Driving on Ice -Driving through a creek -Rock Crawling -Your new assortment of Tow Chains, Hooks, and Ropes -Your friends loving you in snow season for free pull outs -Lots of hi-fives for owning a 4 liter inline 6 jeep What you wont' enjoy: -Gas Mileage -Squeaks and rattles -Having friends call you all the time to pull them out
Posts: 2,327

03-04-2013, 11:37 AM	#9
Bugeater The Maintenance Guy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Renovated Bugeater Estate Casino cash: $6252680	Ugh. How bad of gas mileage are we talking here?
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03-04-2013, 11:41 AM	#10
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $2404734	My biggest problem with Jeeps is they never have enough room to cram my big ass in them. I've never once ridden in a Jeep with adequate leg room. IIRC, you're not that much shorter than I am. Make sure you drive one good and far before you cut the check.
Posts: 56,740

03-04-2013, 11:43 AM	#12
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17686178 VARSITY	On my 2002, I usually get about 18 city, about 21 highway. Mine is leaking a little bit of oil now, lose about 1/2 quart every 5,000 miles. No biggie.
Posts: 40,830

03-04-2013, 11:43 AM	#13
Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	They're solid. As others have said, the inline six is the way to go.
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