KC signs Gaither - Page 22

**Saul Good** · 08-11-2011, 09:22 AM

Per 810

Micjones · 08-12-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

You missed the point. Some guy was jawing about how Branden Albert gave up a bunch of sacks against a weak schedule.

Nah, I think I got it.

**The Franchise** · 08-12-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Nah, I think I got it.

Yeah....because I was looking for any opportunity to bash Cassel.

I haven't said shit about Cassel since probably the playoff game.

**QuikSsurfer** · 08-12-2011, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LOCOChief

Maybe someone addressed this but does anyone see some Roaf similarities to this signing and guy? I do.

No.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-12-2011, 11:46 AM

Sac pops in and makes a fool of himself yet again. On the aftermath of his hero going down no less

patteeu · 08-12-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

You, on the other hand, were slobbing his knob months before he played anything close to "respectable" and act like you should be credited for it over and over.

I don't think that's a fair assessment. People like pawnmower were in the "let's give the guy a chance and try to remain optimistic until he either pans out or proves that he's a failure" camp but took loads of abuse for not prematurely condemning the guy like most people around here were doing. Those who heaped abuse prematurely have no room to complain about being abused in return now. If Cassel ends up bombing, I'm sure pawnmower will be just as willing to change his tune in response to changing circumstances as you and other early doubters seem to be. It's all really just a difference between people who are hopeful until proven otherwise versus people who are skeptical until proven otherwise, which is just a difference in style not in smarts.

But this thread is about Jared Gaither so it's time to set our starting positions about whether we're hopeful or skeptical about Gaither. I'm hopeful about Gaither because I think the Chiefs have done a pretty good job of straightening out people with work issues (or cutting ties with them early) and I have some hope that they'll find a way to harness this guy's talent in a way that the Baltimore situation couldn't. But I'll be the first to admit that I'm basing this all on what I hear on sports talk radio and read here, not on my own ability to analyze offensive line play.

Brock · 08-12-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Nah, I think I got it.

It doesn't look like it.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 08-12-2011, 12:01 PM

11. Kansas City Chiefs (4)

LT: Branden Albert
LG: +Ryan Lilja
C: Casey Wiegmann
RG: *Jon Asamoah
RT: Barry Richardson

Thursday's acquisition of Jared Gaither was a high-upside, low-rent move. Still just 25 years old, Jonathan Ogden's onetime heir apparent in Baltimore could emerge as an in-season starter if healthy. Richardson is the group's weak link and would-be odd man out. New starter Asamoah replaces Brian Waters and projects as an instant impact run blocker. Though Albert has struggled with consistency, he dominates on the ground and is only 26. The primary backups are Gaither, second-round G/C Rodney Hudson, and right tackle-only Ryan O'Callaghan (20 career starts).

patteeu · 08-12-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

The guy couldn't pass a physical with the Raiders,...

Where did you get this information? Are we sure it's not just speculation? We know that Gaither was talking with the Raiders and that they failed to come to terms, but has either side actually explained why?

Chris Meck · 08-12-2011, 02:45 PM

This is such a no brainer I can't imagine how anyone could fault this signing. I mean really.

milkman · 08-12-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

The only issue I could see is RT. Richardson will struggle and then O'Callaghan could come in.

Hell, why don't we just eliminate the RT position.

O'Callagahn has anvils for shoes.

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Albert is improving alright. He gave up 7.5 sacks his second year in this system, compared to 9 his first year under Haley. 1.5 sack improvement in a year when we played some of the worst teams in the league, with jack for pass rushers. Those 1.5 less sacks allowed probably had more to do with QB play than anything. Just think, if Zorn can improve Cassel's awareness like he trying to do, he may only give up 6 this year.

LT's main job is to protect the most important player on the team. Albert can run block like a boss, but he can't protect the QB.

Matt Cassel was sacked in one season with the Patriots more than Brady was sacked in the season before and after combined.

It's not always the O-Line's fault that a QB gets sacked.

Albert still needs to improve, no question.

But the fact is, he isn't quite as bad as some portray him to be

**BossChief** · 08-12-2011, 10:01 PM

Lets not ignore a problem just because we like a certain player though, either. (not saying you are)

Albert may not be as bad as some think he is, but for a 1st round left tackle going into his 4th year, he isnt anything special, either.

Hopefully, this year he starts to put it all together and takes that crucial next step...if he doesnt, lets hope Gaither can.

beach tribe · 08-12-2011, 11:09 PM

Can someone really tell me what the actual status of this guy is?

Is he injured? Recovering from injury? Recovered? What?

Do we know?

royr17 · 08-13-2011, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Lets not ignore a problem just because we like a certain player though, either. (not saying you are)

Albert may not be as bad as some think he is, but for a 1st round left tackle going into his 4th year, he isnt anything special, either.

Hopefully, this year he starts to put it all together and takes that crucial next step...if he doesnt, lets hope Gaither can.

As the way I see it, Albert just isnt a LT in the nfl period, he'd be better suited at RT or G, so here to hoping Gaither can step in and be the LT and the chiefs draft a RT in the draft next year.

Albert struggles with speed rushers, yes, but Richardson is worse, hell Richardson could probably be a Guard and be good there.

Sure-Oz · 08-14-2011, 11:35 AM

lanceveeser Lance Veeser
Todd haley says jared gaither will start off at left tackle. Very interesting. #chiefs

**BossChief** · 08-14-2011, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

lanceveeser Lance Veeser
Todd haley says jared gaither will start off at left tackle. Very interesting. #chiefs

I thought that would be the case.

I also wonder if we will bring in Nick Kaczur to compete at RT.

Any Patriots fans know anything about where he may be in recovery or why he hasnt signed with anyone?

If he is healthy, he would probably take the RT spot from BR if he doesnt take the next step in his young career. If we signed him, both OTs would have a legit fire lit under their asses.

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08-12-2011, 11:09 PM	#327
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