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JakeF · 07-27-2020, 07:52 AM

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/m...s-per-reports/

Marlins-Orioles game canceled due to COVID-19 outbreak resulting in at least 14 cases, per reports
The Marlins will not be opening the home portion of their schedule as planned
R.J. Anderson
4 mins ago

Playing: Report: Marlins Home Opener Cancelled Amid Covid-19 Outbreak In Clubhouse (7:48)

Major League Baseball's season is less than a week old, but one team has already experienced a COVID-19 outbreak that will sideline a chunk of its roster and has caused a game to be canceled.

The Miami Marlins, who had four players test positive during their opening series against the Philadelphia Phillies, had an additional eight players and two coaches test positive on Monday, less than 12 hours before they were supposed to play their home opener against the Baltimore Orioles, according to ESPN's Jeff Passan.

That means the Marlins have had at least 14 individuals become infected over the last several days. In response to the outbreak, the Marlins game against the Orioles on Monday night will not be played, according to The Athletic's Ken Rosenthal.

Here are five things to know about this story.

Who has been affected?

Four individuals consented to allow the Marlins to disclose their positive test ahead of Monday's news: Catcher Jorge Alfaro, outfielders Garrett Cooper and Harold Ramirez, and pitcher Jose Urena, who was scratched prior to his Sunday start.

Where are the Marlins, Orioles?

The Marlins have not left Philadelphia. They were scheduled to depart on Sunday evening, after the game, but changed their plans to leave on Monday. That flight did not take off, however.

The Orioles, meanwhile, do appear to be in Miami. Outfielder Dwight Smith Jr. tweeted that the plane was departing on Sunday night. That tracks with the normal operating procedures that see teams arrive the night prior rather than the morning of games.

What about the Phillies game on Monday?

The Phillies remain scheduled to host the New York Yankees on Monday evening. It's unclear if that will change prior to the first pitch.

Are the Phillies at risk of a similar outbreak?

Because the Marlins almost certainly had individuals who tested positive playing in games over the weekend, it's fair to wonder if the Phillies might be at risk of a similar outbreak.

Based on what is known about COVID-19, the highest risk for infection is spending prolonged time in closed or poorly ventilated areas with large crowds and in an intimate fashion. In other words, playing a baseball game outside with (mostly) fleeting contact does not seem like a situation that should engender transmission from one individual to another -- at least not on another team.

The Athletic talked to a pair of infectious-disease experts who agreed that the likelihood of transmission from the Marlins to the Phillies was "low." Of course, "low" doesn't mean zero, and Phillies players (and Yankees players, if they are asked to dress in the same clubhouse as the Marlins did) are right to be nervous about the situation at hand.

Will the season be canceled?

This is an unknowable question at this point, in part because there are no clear guidelines on what would trigger the season to be scrapped. Again, as The Athletic noted, the decision is in the hands of commissioner Rob Manfred, and him alone.

Ostensibly, if the season remains in place, then more players could opt-out rather than expose themselves and their loved ones to the potential for a similar outbreak in their clubhouse.

Sassy Squatch · 07-27-2020, 08:43 AM

The Phillies organization becomes a hugely important factor now in where things go from here. Test results on personnel likely will be known this evening. I believe other games scheduled for tonight will be played.
— Karl Ravech (@karlravechespn) July 27, 2020

We'll know tonight.

**DaFace** · 07-27-2020, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

The Phillies organization becomes a hugely important factor now in where things go from here. Test results on personnel likely will be known this evening. I believe other games scheduled for tonight will be played.
— Karl Ravech (@karlravechespn) July 27, 2020

We'll know tonight.

Yep. If they have zero positives, I think the plan can be deemed to be working. If they have a ton of them, we're probably done.

**BigRedChief** · 07-27-2020, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DrRyan

NBA, not MLB amigo.

https://sports.yahoo.com/what-has-be...162237418.html

I was generalizing athletes as entitled rule breakers. They will not stay in lockdown for months. I'm for sure, without a doubt baseball players have not 100% followed the protocols. That was just an example.

tk13 · 07-27-2020, 08:47 AM

Problem is we may not know for a week if anyone on the Phillies got it. But you just have to test, test, test and try and stay ahead of it.

The real question is what do the Marlins do now? It's going to throw the whole balance of the season off if they have to postpone a bunch of games.

TwistedChief · 07-27-2020, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Sure, but did people actually believe that they'd get through the season with zero infections? That seems pretty naive if so.

If it's spreading through the league like wildfire, that's one thing. But if it's restricted to one team, that just seems like the expected outcome to me.

The question is whether it spread to their opponent and whether that's where it stopped.

I think if it's spread to their opponent, it's clearly game over.

But even so, what kind of protocols are they following when at least 14 people on the team have gotten sick over the first series? That's A LOT and absolutely doesn't bode well for any other team sport.

tk13 · 07-27-2020, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I think if it's spread to their opponent, it's clearly game over.

But even so, what kind of protocols are they following when at least 14 people on the team have gotten sick over the first series? That's A LOT and absolutely doesn't bode well for any other team sport.

I'm not sure we really know. What we do know is they played exhibitions against the Braves early last week, and both of the Braves catchers came down sick on Friday. Did they give it to the Marlins? I'm not sure if the catchers tested positive or not, but even if they didn't this virus is hard to track because of the delay of it showing up.

PunkinDrublic · 07-27-2020, 08:52 AM

We need a fenced off border wall on the Florida state line.

**BigRedChief** · 07-27-2020, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I think if it's spread to their opponent, it's clearly game over.

But even so, what kind of protocols are they following when at least 14 people on the team have gotten sick over the first series? That's A LOT and absolutely doesn't bode well for any other team sport.

Thats my point. No way the players followed the protocols and still had 14 cases. Maybe it was just one that violated the protocols and they infected the others, maybe the 14 invited some girls back to the room to have a party etc. etc.

Pablo · 07-27-2020, 08:53 AM

Welp at least I only have to watch three Royals games this year.

**dirk digler** · 07-27-2020, 08:54 AM

If baseball cancels their season so soon I have zero hope for football unless they put all the teams in a bubble like the NBA is. But even then you will have idiots like Lou Williams breaking quarantine to go to a strip club.

kstater · 07-27-2020, 08:55 AM

I think this all but guarantees college football isn't happening.

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tk13 · 07-27-2020, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

If baseball cancels their season so soon I have zero hope for football unless they put all the teams in a bubble like the NBA is. But even then you will have idiots like Lou Williams breaking quarantine to go to a strip club.

Even just from a player perspective, if MLB gets too out of control you're going to have NFL players say screw this and opting out.

ChiliConCarnage · 07-27-2020, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I'm not sure we really know. What we do know is they played exhibitions against the Braves early last week, and both of the Braves catchers came down with the virus Friday. Did they give it to the Marlins?

Dang, and we just started playing. Ugh.

I guess the Marlins just forfeit some games for a while? Even if we have to deal with wackiness from teams playing different numbers of games, I'd rather have some sort of season as long as it doesn't get too dangerous for personnel.

Have they said how many non-players/coaches have got it? If it spread this much surely other staff that travel with the team must have come down with it.

MMXcalibur · 07-27-2020, 09:04 AM

Who’s going to willingly want to go play the Dolphins, Jaguars, or Buccaneers?
NFL needs to bubble up or this season is toast. Hell, bubble up in North Dakota.

Marcellus · 07-27-2020, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

If baseball cancels their season so soon I have zero hope for football unless they put all the teams in a bubble like the NBA is. But even then you will have idiots like Lou Williams breaking quarantine to go to a strip club.

I'm not joking, I think the issue is demographics. The difference between baseball, football, and the NBA will prove or disprove this theory.

Its going to be an interesting test as it keeps cropping up heavily in the Latino community.

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