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Old 11-09-2010, 12:00 AM  
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Do you think we could trade for an elite WR in the offseason?

Surely there are some teams that would be willing to give up an elite WR (like a Chad Johnson) for some draft picks to help their rebuild.

Or do you think we'll continue to try to build through the draft?
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:48 AM   #61
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For some crazy reason we NEVER draft a wr in the later rounds.
Is this sarcasm?
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:38 AM   #62
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I will not ask for an elite WR via a trade or the draft unless we have someone who knows how to throw.
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Old 11-09-2010, 06:40 AM   #63
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Surely there are some teams that would be willing to give up an elite WR (like a Chad Johnson) for some draft picks to help their rebuild.
Yes as soon as you find a time machine that goes back to 2006 or so
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Old 11-09-2010, 01:21 PM   #64
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Yes.

Boldin > Moeaki.
No.

If you would trade Asamoah AND Moeaki for Boldin right now, you are crazy.

Like it or not, we are STILL a young team that isnt ready to compete quite yet and by the time we are, Moeaki and Asamoah will be HUGE pieces of that puzzle.

Two young players that have already shown the ability to dominate their opponents are worth a lot more than a 30 year old receiver that has only played 2 16 game seasons due to injury... out of 8.

17 games lost to injuries that add up.

With how much higher we picked over the Ravens, our third and fourth would be worth more than the Ravens 3rd 4th and 5th rounders.

The question wasn't would you trade Moeaki for Boldin, it was would you trade Asamoah AND Moeaki for Boldin (30 years old)
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Old 11-09-2010, 01:39 PM   #65
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The question wasn't would you trade Moeaki for Boldin, it was would you trade Asamoah AND Moeaki for Boldin (30 years old)
Anquan Boldin is a game-changing receiver.

If the Chiefs had given their second-round pick for him, they could have still drafted Moeaki and Asamoah.

Can you imagine this offense with Boldin, Bowe and Moeaki?

Cassel would actually look decent.

McGimmick can bite my nuts.

To answer your question, yes, I still would trade both of them. You can find good guards every year. Moeaki looks pretty special, but Boldin's more special. I'll take five good years from Boldin and in the meantime if my GM is worth his salt he can find a guard and a tight end that can play. Remember, championship teams aren't built on guards and tight ends. This team has lacked receivers for years.
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:10 PM   #66
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I guess we will just disagree then.

No way in hell would I trade Asamoah AND Moeaki for Boldin RIGHT NOW.

If Boldin was only like 27 years old, I would think about it, but still likely keep our kids.

Its true you can find playable guards frequently, but Asamoah is the whole package and he is nasty. Guards that can dominate in pass protection and the running game don't come around too often...similarly to how rare Tight ends are that are the total package.

Also, your argument can also be made in the reverse...any GM worth his salt can find WRs in the middle rounds with some consistency...especially when we have a guy at HC that his specialty is WRs and has been groomed to know what to look for in prospects since a very yo0ung age from one of the best of all time in Dick Haley.

I said it before, during and after the draft...Jon Asamoah has Will Shields type potential.

Boldin wouldn't make Cassel a real quarterback.
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:13 PM   #67
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:15 PM   #68
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Well put it this way, then - Boldin > McCluster.
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:24 PM   #69
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Well put it this way, then - Boldin > McCluster.
Remember, Boldin is 30 and has had A LOT of significant injuries that pile up and DMC is only 22 and defenses already respect him and always have to know where he is because of matchup problems.

Dexter has 568 total yards and 2 touchdowns in 6 games...that's not too shabby for a rookie that the staff hasnt had long enough to know how many ways they can use him to attack defenses.

A better argument would be Arenas IMO.

We could have had Syquan Thompson in the 6th or 7th (trade for future pick) and traded the later second for Boldin and been much better right now, but that's all in hindsight (although I really liked Thompson predraft and thought he would be a damn good nickle corner).
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:27 PM   #70
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:30 PM   #71
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Remember, Boldin is 30 and has had A LOT of significant injuries that pile up and DMC is only 22 and defenses already respect him and always have to know where he is because of matchup problems.

Dexter has 568 total yards and 2 touchdowns in 6 games...that's not too shabby for a rookie that the staff hasnt had long enough to know how many ways they can use him to attack defenses.

A better argument would be Arenas IMO.

We could have had Syquan Thompson in the 6th or 7th (trade for future pick) and traded the later second for Boldin and been much better right now, but that's all in hindsight (although I really liked Thompson predraft and thought he would be a damn good nickle corner).
Now you're talking.

Bowe, Moeaki, Boldin, McCluster.

Damn, that would be hard to defend.

Another indictment on Pioli.
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:32 PM   #72
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We should draft a WR every year. EVERY YEAR.

Look at our History of WRs' in the last 20 years.
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:41 PM   #73
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i just don't think that's Pioli's plan. He is going to build through the draft and supplement with cheap veterans.
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:43 PM   #74
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We should draft a WR every year. EVERY YEAR.

Look at our History of WRs' in the last 20 years.
actually, we have...every year for the last 7...we didn't exactly draft very good ones though.

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Old 11-09-2010, 02:50 PM   #75
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this. seriously. when you have a qb that plays like crap, an elite WR is not going to do anything except bitch about not getting the ball. it would be like dropping a festiva motor into a ferrari's body. people are just going to laugh at you and call you douche.
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