Chiefs Kent Babb eviscerates Pioli once again. - Page 2

Hammock Parties · 11-30-2012, 02:13 AM

Listen to 49 minutes of pure win.

http://91984.tinypenis.com/entry/201...18_07_15-08_00

Relevant quotes:

Pioli, pwned.

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"Pioli comes in dressed very casually and wants us to see him as a regular guy. And then he proceeds to act like the lunatic he is: an egomaniac, an insecure freak."

"Todd Haley is trying to get off on the right foot with us...and Pioli is making everybody uncomfortable and asking things like "you don't want us to win?"

"Haley would try to answer a question or try to talk and get to know us and Pioli would talk over him and wouldn't let him talk. He figuratively slapped him down. If we asked Haley something, Scott would answer for him."

"As soon as you challenge him on something you're part of the problem. If you're not with us you're against us. That's part of the reason they had mass firings and layoffs. People can't work with him."

"If he wants to be, he can be very charming and make you feel like a million bucks. He can be a good guy, but most of the time he doesn't feel like doing it. So I can see him charming Clark Hunt. It made a lot of sense."

"These guys don't believe in what this organization is doing. They don't care. They're not playing hard for Romeo, they're not organized, and that comes straight from the GM."

"One of the PR guys was so scared of pissing these guys off that he would literally run from the press room into the PR office to grab a diet coke and a bottle of water for Todd Haley, just in case he wanted one or the other. Haley told me he didn't care about any of that, but that was the environment that Pioli expected. That guy is no longer working there because he thought he had to be a certain way and that pissed them off even further because he went over the top with trying to appease what he thought they wanted."

"He would rather you think he was good than actually be good. He wants to be good but he's so concerned with you thinking he's good that he cares more about that."

"I don't think Clark had any idea that all this was going on. If you have a horrible teacher when you're in school, when the parents come in they put on a wonderful show about how nice they are and that's the way Pioli is for Clark. He's a different guy around him."

"Clark Hunt not opening his wallet is not the reason the Chiefs are bad. Scott Pioli doesn't know how to identify talent, it's as simple as that."

"If he lets Scott Pioli stay here, Clark is the worst owner in the NFL."

"They've basically gotten rid of everybody from Gonzalez to Waters...if you're in a position where you can publicly question the grand regime, they don't want you around. That's the reason Tamba Hali doesn't talk. He doesn't want to say anything that's going to piss off these guys."

"If Pioli was sitting here we'd all be on pins and needles because he reminds you that he doesn't drink and he doesn't cuss. Who cares about that? One time I said we should go get a beer and talk about this and he gave me a three minute explanation about why he doesn't drink. I don't trust anyone who doesn't drink."

"He's irrelevant, and the Chiefs are irrelevant, too. On the national landscape, the Chiefs sadly are irrelevant."

"You see these play 60 commercials or NFL commercials, and you never see the Chiefs on there. You know why? Because Scott Pioli said no. They took down all the signs for their community service. That's not allowed. You're not allowed to have fun playing football. In his twisted mind, that's about an individual. That's about a person and he's trying to build a team."

Called Pioli a "colossal shitshow"

Congratulate the interviewers here:

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/1...st-w-kent-babb

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 11-30-2012, 07:55 AM

So one of the podcasts guys thinks the blackout was the final nail in Pioli's coffin? I will JIMP.

**007** · 11-30-2012, 07:55 AM

Is this game getting blacked out locally or did they meet their minimum sales?

htismaqe · 11-30-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

So one of the podcasts guys thinks the blackout was the final nail in Pioli's coffin? I will JIMP.

Pioli's coffin has been shut for a while.

The blackout is just the public ammo Clark needed.

Much like Haley being fired last year - the Jets game wasn't the deciding factor, it was the convenient excuse.

JD10367 · 11-30-2012, 08:02 AM

Of course all this stuff matters. None of it is "silly". There's an old Italian saying: "the fish rots from the head". It's the same for us, if we work for a clueless company and/or a shithead boss. The best situation is a great boss and success. A tolerable situation is an asshole boss and success. An unwinnable situation is an asshole boss and failure.

Pioli is a twisted fat midget with a Napoleon complex. He took only a few key ideas from Belichick and then twisted them beyond belief. The Patriots do put the team over individuals, but they do it right. They build a solid team. They identify potential stars who slip under the radar (Brady, Bruschi, Vrabel, Troy Brown, Welker). They utilize veterans who are supposedly "done" and get something out of them (Bryan Cox, Corey Dillon, Rodney Harrison, Randy Moss, Brian Waters). They hit in the draft (Gronkowski, Mayo, Law). They have a coach who players believe in (despite being an asshole) and an owner who's built a winning culture for the players, fans, and community. Pioli has no connection to this. It's like taking a longstanding famous rock band's fourth and most recent keyboardist and thinking you can recreate the band around him. "The band" is Kraft, Belichick, and Brady; Pioli is Ringo (or worse, Yoko).

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 11-30-2012, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Pioli's coffin has been shut for a while.

The blackout is just the public ammo Clark needed.

Much like Haley being fired last year - the Jets game wasn't the deciding factor, it was the convenient excuse.

**** I hope so. I am scared to death that he's going to be back here next year.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 11-30-2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

Of course all this stuff matters. None of it is "silly". There's an old Italian saying: "the fish rots from the head". It's the same for us, if we work for a clueless company and/or a shithead boss. The best situation is a great boss and success. A tolerable situation is an asshole boss and success. An unwinnable situation is an asshole boss and failure.

Pioli is a twisted fat midget with a Napoleon complex. He took only a few key ideas from Belichick and then twisted them beyond belief. The Patriots do put the team over individuals, but they do it right. They build a solid team. They identify potential stars who slip under the radar (Brady, Bruschi, Vrabel, Troy Brown, Welker). They utilize veterans who are supposedly "done" and get something out of them (Bryan Cox, Corey Dillon, Rodney Harrison, Randy Moss, Brian Waters). They hit in the draft (Gronkowski, Mayo, Law). They have a coach who players believe in (despite being an asshole) and an owner who's built a winning culture for the players, fans, and community. Pioli has no connection to this. It's like taking a longstanding famous rock band's fourth and most recent keyboardist and thinking you can recreate the band around him. "The band" is Kraft, Belichick, and Brady; Pioli is Ringo (or worse, Yoko).

You know shit has hit the fan when even the Patriot fans won't stick up for him anymore.

htismaqe · 11-30-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

Of course all this stuff matters. None of it is "silly". There's an old Italian saying: "the fish rots from the head". It's the same for us, if we work for a clueless company and/or a shithead boss. The best situation is a great boss and success. A tolerable situation is an asshole boss and success. An unwinnable situation is an asshole boss and failure.

Pioli is a twisted fat midget with a Napoleon complex. He took only a few key ideas from Belichick and then twisted them beyond belief. The Patriots do put the team over individuals, but they do it right. They build a solid team. They identify potential stars who slip under the radar (Brady, Bruschi, Vrabel, Troy Brown, Welker). They utilize veterans who are supposedly "done" and get something out of them (Bryan Cox, Corey Dillon, Rodney Harrison, Randy Moss, Brian Waters). They hit in the draft (Gronkowski, Mayo, Law). They have a coach who players believe in (despite being an asshole) and an owner who's built a winning culture for the players, fans, and community. Pioli has no connection to this. It's like taking a longstanding famous rock band's fourth and most recent keyboardist and thinking you can recreate the band around him. "The band" is Kraft, Belichick, and Brady; Pioli is Ringo (or worse, Yoko).

It's the little things that are at issue - mandating that blinds facing the field are always closed, locking people in the media room and requiring escorts to go to the bathroom, and candy wrappers in the building (incidentally, it wasn't the candy wrapper that was the issue - the candy wrapper was just evidence that somebody was using a back stairwell when they were told not to) - some people contend that bitching about those things is silly and that they don't have any effect on the product on the field.

In actuality, they DO have an effect. Like someone said earlier, they expect these players to act like robots off the field - be business-like, don't blab, etc. - but then they can't understand why they're just collecting a paycheck on the field. The answer is obvious.

AT BEST, these little things are proof that Pioli is too preoccupied with maintaining control and protecting his image to actually FIELD a good team.

JD10367 · 11-30-2012, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

You know shit has hit the fan when even the Patriot fans won't stick up for him anymore.

Most of us liked him when he was here and assumed he had some part in the winning. And maybe he did. Maybe he helped Belichick correct, say, the occasional wrong personnel choice. Given ten players, maybe Belichick alone hits on six, and with Pioli's input he hits on seven or even eight. But it's clear, as with all fruit from the Belichick Tree, that it wasn't about Pioli (or Mangini, or Weis, or McDaniel, or Crennel, or...). Pioli has displayed the inability, on his own, to be either an evaluator of talent or a leader of men. Being Belichick's lackey/assistant was as far as his abilities went. The Chiefs took a gamble on him and lost; Pioli is the Matt Cassel of GMs.

Hammock Parties · 11-30-2012, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

Pioli is a twisted fat midget with a Napoleon complex.

Join the war on your dickhead export, Pats fans.

Hammock Parties · 11-30-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

**** I hope so. I am scared to death that he's going to be back here next year.

**Fire Me Boy!** · 11-30-2012, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

Some of the things mentioned are prime examples of why we have riffs between the Chiefs and the fans. Let's take the community service thing. Not long ago, almost every starter and a lot of the 2nd stringers had some kind of community program. Brian Waters was NFL Man of the Year for that. Just about any player could walk into any bar, store, etc. and have someone thank them for what they were doing for KC. They were "our guys".
So Pioli doesn't drink or cuss. BFD! This isn't the Cleaver household, it's football. I'm not advocating he does anything different about that, but why is that even a topic?
The players are given a script for answers and they're afraid to deviate. The only time we've got anything but the company line this season is the Winston tirade. Given the subject of the tirade, that was given the seal of approval by the FO.
I could go on and on, but bottom line--this isn't our Chiefs. As long as Pioli wants robots off the field, he's going to get robots on the field. Fire Pioli and bring back the KC Way.

htismaqe · 11-30-2012, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

Pioli is the Matt Cassel of GMs.

That is awesome!

**mdchiefsfan** · 11-30-2012, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

Boom!

ARROW2 · 11-30-2012, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

Boom!

I don't cuss

**Dave Lane** · 11-30-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

This is all Bernard Pollard's fault.

Brian Waters' fault

Tony Gonzalez's fault

Tyler Palko's fault

Todd Haley's fault

I see a pattern.

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JD10367 Cheaterlover* Join Date: May 2009 Location: RI Casino cash: $10010716	Of course all this stuff matters. None of it is "silly". There's an old Italian saying: "the fish rots from the head". It's the same for us, if we work for a clueless company and/or a shithead boss. The best situation is a great boss and success. A tolerable situation is an asshole boss and success. An unwinnable situation is an asshole boss and failure. Pioli is a twisted fat midget with a Napoleon complex. He took only a few key ideas from Belichick and then twisted them beyond belief. The Patriots do put the team over individuals, but they do it right. They build a solid team. They identify potential stars who slip under the radar (Brady, Bruschi, Vrabel, Troy Brown, Welker). They utilize veterans who are supposedly "done" and get something out of them (Bryan Cox, Corey Dillon, Rodney Harrison, Randy Moss, Brian Waters). They hit in the draft (Gronkowski, Mayo, Law). They have a coach who players believe in (despite being an asshole) and an owner who's built a winning culture for the players, fans, and community. Pioli has no connection to this. It's like taking a longstanding famous rock band's fourth and most recent keyboardist and thinking you can recreate the band around him. "The band" is Kraft, Belichick, and Brady; Pioli is Ringo (or worse, Yoko).
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