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Old 09-19-2015, 09:34 PM   Topic Starter
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Jeremiah Trotter thinks Andy Reid got out-coached in a lot of games

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Jeremiah Trotter played a total of seven seasons for Andy Reid in three different stints with the Eagles. And he thinks he lost a lot of games because Reid got out-coached.

“If it came down to both teams were even, talent-wise,*I think the opponent’s team would win if it came down to coaching,” Trotter said on 97.5 The Fanatic, via Philly.com. “Andy Reid got out-coached in a lot of games, man, a lot of big games,” Trotter continued. “Time outs, running the football, you know.”

Trotter said Reid’s offensive style made things different for the defense and the late defensive coordinator Jim Johnson, who ran the defense in Philadelphia until his death in 2008.

“As a defense, we understood we passed the ball too much. You know, there’s times we’re sitting over there like, ‘Man, listen. Just get us a couple of first downs so we can get a break.’ And I’m sure it frustrated Jim Johnson also,” Trotter said

Still, Trotter acknowledges that he won a lot of games during his time with Reid, and he says he would have given Reid a 7.5 or 8 on a scale of 1-10. I shudder to think what he’d say about a coach who was a 1.
Good coaches don't get out coached in a lot of games.
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Old 09-19-2015, 09:36 PM   #2
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Nice to get some validation for what most of us thought. Reid is a rah rah guy who rode a borderline HOF QB and a definite HOF D coordinator to all his success.
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Old 09-19-2015, 09:38 PM   #3
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Nice to get some validation for what most of us thought. Reid is a rah rah guy who rode a borderline HOF QB and a definite HOF D coordinator to all his success.
It's just a fact at this point.
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Old 01-07-2018, 05:09 PM   #4
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Nice to get some validation for what most of us thought. Reid is a rah rah guy who rode a borderline HOF QB and a definite HOF D coordinator to all his success.


We have the QB now...just need to hire the right DC.
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Old 09-19-2015, 09:44 PM   #5
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He hasn't been out coached, he over thinks it and gets too cute.

1st and goal, run the ****ing rock 4 times if needed.

It seems more like play calling than coaching that he struggles with
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Old 09-19-2015, 09:47 PM   #6
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He hasn't been out coached, he over thinks it and gets too cute.

1st and goal, run the ****ing rock 4 times if needed.

It seems more like play calling than coaching that he struggles with
Goddamn he DID find his perfect QB, didn't he?
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Old 09-19-2015, 09:51 PM   #7
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Goddamn he DID find his perfect QB, didn't he?
JFC, are you for real.
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Old 09-20-2015, 11:02 AM   #8
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He hasn't been out coached, he over thinks it and gets too cute.

1st and goal, run the ****ing rock 4 times if needed.

It seems more like play calling than coaching that he struggles with
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Reid setup a game plan against Denver that was the exact opposite of what it should have been. We used a misdirection,lateral offense against a undersized,speed defense. That is a mistake from day 1 of the game plan. Reid was either too stupid or stubborn to use the correct game plan.

The fact that we don't have a power back on the team indicates that Reid won't change regardless of the opponent.

Andy Reid was a good guy to bring in to turn the organization around but this should be his last year in Kansas City.
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Old 09-20-2015, 11:03 AM   #9
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Reid setup a game plan against Denver that was the exact opposite of what it should have been. We used a misdirection,lateral offense against a undersized,speed defense. That is a mistake from day 1 of the game plan. Reid was either too stupid or stubborn to use the correct game plan.

The fact that we don't have a power back on the team indicates that Reid has no plan to ever change regardless of the opponent.

Andy Reid was a good guy to bring in to turn the organization around but this should be his last year in Kansas City.
Reid is the NFL version of Gary Pinkel...
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Old 09-20-2015, 11:06 AM   #10
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Reid setup a game plan against Denver that was the exact opposite of what it should have been. We used a misdirection,lateral offense against a undersized,speed defense. That is a mistake from day 1 of the game plan. Reid was either too stupid or stubborn to use the correct game plan.
Just curious, what coaching experience do you have?
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Old 09-20-2015, 11:10 AM   #11
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Just curious, what coaching experience do you have?
You heard him, everyone on the board that hasn't coached in college or the NFL needs to get the **** out. You're opinion's are invalid.


of course since you haven't coached anything then should lead the way out the CP door.
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You heard him, everyone on the board that hasn't coached in college or the NFL needs to get the **** out. You're opinion's are invalid.


of course since you haven't coached anything then should lead the way out the CP door.
I guess the DC forum will be empty soon...
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You heard him, everyone on the board that hasn't coached in college or the NFL needs to get the **** out. You're opinion's are invalid.


of course since you haven't coached anything then should lead the way out the CP door.
I didn't say that. Learn to read. I asked because I want to know how you know what the proper game plan would be. I am guessing you've never coached and get your "experience" playing Madden, a simulation game written by software geeks who also never played or coached football.

In short, why should I take your opinion seriously? What game plan have you ever put together?

Convince me.
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