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Old 11-11-2019, 02:01 PM  
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Does the D deserve the least amount of blame?

Going into half time the D had only allowed 7 points and forced a big fumble on the Titans 1st drive, but the O couldnt capatilize and only scored 3. The offense gets 5 drives in the first half and can only come away with 13 points. That is pathetic. All you ****tards that whine about TOP can **** off too. The Chiefs had the ball for 22 minutes out of a total 30 minutes in the 1st half and only managed to score 13 points and they were even given the ball on the 20 yard line.

Then the 2nd half starts Titans get the ball to start the half and the D forces a 3 and out. Then the D plays good enough to win the game and on what should have been there final drive they come up clutch and have what should have been the game winning stop. They get this offense the ball back at the Ten 32 with a 32-27 lead and 1:48 left in the game. With this offense that should be game over, but it's not and we know how it ends.

It's not fair to expect the D to make 2 big stops in back to back drives because the O and ST shit the bed. The skill position guys need to learn how to hold onto the ****ing ball and stop dropping passes. Andy Reid needs to stop trying these stupid cute plays when all we need is a couple of yards. The ST guys need to pull their heads out of their asses. And last of all I don't want to hear anything about TOP being importa my, because it very clearly is not.
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:05 PM   #2
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Defense for getting gashed in the running game
Offense for not running it on 3rd and 2 and Williams fumble
Special teams for virtually everything they did


This was a team pants wetting
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:05 PM   #3
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I get where you are coming from, but that was an entire team effort with regards to contributing to that loss.
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:06 PM   #4
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Defense for getting gashed in the running game
Offense for not running it on 3rd and 2 and Williams fumble
Special teams for virtually everything they did


This was a team pants wetting
Offense for drops (Hill, Watkins come to mind) and way too many penalties.
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:07 PM   #5
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Going into half time the D had only allowed 7 points and forced a big fumble on the Titans 1st drive, but the O couldnt capatilize and only scored 3. The offense gets 5 drives in the first half and can only come away with 13 points. That is pathetic. All you ****tards that whine about TOP can **** off too. The Chiefs had the ball for 22 minutes out of a total 30 minutes in the 1st half and only managed to score 13 points and they were even given the ball on the 20 yard line.

Then the 2nd half starts Titans get the ball to start the half and the D forces a 3 and out. Then the D plays good enough to win the game and on what should have been there final drive they come up clutch and have what should have been the game winning stop. They get this offense the ball back at the Ten 32 with a 32-27 lead and 1:48 left in the game. With this offense that should be game over, but it's not and we know how it ends.

It's not fair to expect the D to make 2 big stops in back to back drives because the O and ST shit the bed. The skill position guys need to learn how to hold onto the ****ing ball and stop dropping passes. Andy Reid needs to stop trying these stupid cute plays when all we need is a couple of yards. The ST guys need to pull their heads out of their asses. And last of all I don't want to hear anything about TOP being importa my, because it very clearly is not.
LOL I just bumped my TOP thread, and there are still mother****ers crowing about it. Today. After winning TOP by 7 damned minutes.

I think the D isn't necessarily blameless. But yeah, the O deserves some of the L. And ST can **** right off.
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:08 PM   #6
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No.

You can't give up almost 30 points to a Ryan Tannehill-led offense.
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:08 PM   #7
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The defense played well at times however when it absolutely could not fail, it did. I place the blame on the entire team. The defense got a stop with less than two minutes remaining and the offense needed a single first down. How many times this year has the opposing team been in this situation? Did the opposing team rely on the defense?
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:09 PM   #8
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No.

You can't give up almost 30 points to a Ryan Tannehill-led offense.
Offense gave up a scoop and score.
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:10 PM   #9
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The fact that once again the defense was gashed on the ground for big yards means they deserve plenty of blame. Derrick Henry nearly averaged a 1st down every time he touched the ball and that’s just unacceptable. Additionally, the Titans last 4 play scoring drive and two point conversion looked far too easy.

So, defense is still ass and Andy is still Andy. Nothing more.
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:10 PM   #10
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Going into half time the D had only allowed 7 points and forced a big fumble on the Titans 1st drive, but the O couldnt capatilize and only scored 3. The offense gets 5 drives in the first half and can only come away with 13 points. That is pathetic. All you ****tards that whine about TOP can **** off too. The Chiefs had the ball for 22 minutes out of a total 30 minutes in the 1st half and only managed to score 13 points and they were even given the ball on the 20 yard line.

Then the 2nd half starts Titans get the ball to start the half and the D forces a 3 and out. Then the D plays good enough to win the game and on what should have been there final drive they come up clutch and have what should have been the game winning stop. They get this offense the ball back at the Ten 32 with a 32-27 lead and 1:48 left in the game. With this offense that should be game over, but it's not and we know how it ends.

It's not fair to expect the D to make 2 big stops in back to back drives because the O and ST shit the bed. The skill position guys need to learn how to hold onto the ****ing ball and stop dropping passes. Andy Reid needs to stop trying these stupid cute plays when all we need is a couple of yards. The ST guys need to pull their heads out of their asses. And last of all I don't want to hear anything about TOP being importa my, because it very clearly is not.
It is not fair to ask the offense to score on every ****ing drive, but that is what they have had to do week in and week out.

Had the lead with 1:43 left....defense shit the bed. It is one thing if they played well and the other team just makes a spectacular play (i.e. Rodgers in the GB game), but it is another thing to make the Tits offense look like the 1999 Rams.
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:11 PM   #11
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Skip Bayless finally gets his turn to talk, and to the surprise of no one, takes the opposite stance.


Let's watch.
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:15 PM   #12
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The defense failed at the most critical points. And it failed spectacularly to a Ryan Tannehill-led offense. These dudes are clearly afraid of Derrick Henry, too.

The offense didnít come away with as many points as youíd hope in the first half, but penalties and injuries played a big role. Even though they didnít light up the scoreboard, we probably held the ball for a solid 80% of that first half. Then the defense came out in the second half and immediately shit the bed. By the middle of the third quarter it looked like these dudes had been worn down having played 80 snaps. It was ugly.

If Iím assigning blame percentages, Iíd probably give an equal 25% to Damienís fumble, the defense as a whole, Reid calling anything but a downhill run on 3rd and 2 to ice the game, and special teams as a whole.

This was a near-complete pants-shitting. It took every phase except the passing game to meltdown in order for the Titans to eke out that win.
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:18 PM   #13
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Honestly I want Blake Bell drawn and quartered. Stupid penalties, (15 yard crack back block in the 1st quarter on the TD) he is the reason the damn FG was blocked. Unexplainably the 3rd down call at the end of the game was a screen to him that he couldn't get open on (dumb play Andy).

He also missed the block on the QB sneak that got Mahomes injured.

Dude is worthless at best and a liability at minimum, Harris was a better player.
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:25 PM   #14
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I wanted to throw the remote through the TV every time Romo said that the Chiefs defense was worn out.

They were on the field for like THIRTEEN ****ING PLAYS in the first half.

Tennessee made adjustments, Spags didn’t. Simple as that.
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:31 PM   #15
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First, I like the OP; makes a lot of sense.

At 1:42, the Chiefs defense had just finished forcing the Titans to turn the ball over on downs. That's doing their job, period. Late in the game, after getting gashed a couple times, they stood up and forced a stop. You couldn't ask for more in that moment, and they delivered. That should've been the last time they saw the field.

The offense came out and got the ball down to the Titans 24-yard line. On 3rd down and 2, the Titans still had a TO to burn, so all we had to do was anything that would force them to burn that last TO. The offense forced them to take their last TO, but lost 5 yards, so the ball was on the 29-yard line. Creating a 46-yard FG situation. A chip shot for Butker, who's been something like 86% inside 47 yards.

All is well, up to that point. Remember, the Titans had only scored 3 TDs off on their possessions out of 9 total. The odds are 66% that they can't drive the field and score a TD.



Then the botched snap/intentional grounding thing happens. So not only do we not go up by 8 points, but we also give away an extra 10 yards due to penalty.

I don't like throwing individual players/coaches under the bus, but when we look at this purely objectively, Winchester really screwed up snapping that ball early. If he doesn't, and Butker kicks successfully, the odds are 66% that our defense stops them on their ensuing drive.

Then later, the Titans perfectly time the snap on our last FG attempt, and block it. That has to be a coaching gaffe if they can predict when we're going to snap it.

So, at least for yesterday, IMO, the loss is more on ST than it is on the defense.
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