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Old 01-16-2020, 09:14 AM  
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Lamar Jackson wasn't, isn't, and never will be better than Patrick Mahomes

This "Lamar Jackson is in the same league as Mahomes" nonsense on every football related show I see needs to stop.

Lamar Jackson, on the biggest stage, has now shit down his leg in both opportunities. Lamar is a player who has to have everything around him working perfectly to have success. Put him down 2 scores and ask him to carry the team, he cannot answer the bell.

There's a big difference between a running quarterback, and a quarterback who can run. Lamar Jackson and The Ravens ran 88 plays and put up 12 points.

Jackson attempted 59 passes, only threw one touchdown, but also threw two picks and lost a fumble. 12 points on 59 pass attempts should tell you all you need to know about Lamar as a QB when the lights are the brightest.

Nobody would bat an eye if before the game, soneone told us Pat would put the ball up 59 times. Matter of fact, id be pretty excited to see how many points and yards he would put up in that span of plays.

When things got bad for both QBs, you saw the odds on favorite to win the MVP this year get visible frustrated, press, and ultimately fold. He was nowhere to be seen trying to work out what was happening, rallying his team, he simply pouted on the sideline as his team fell further behind.

The reigning MVP had literally no quit. Its one thing to say after the fact, that we had faith all along, its quite another for that to be true.

Down 24, think about that for a moment. 24. Mahomes is captured, in that moment on the sideline saying we have everything we want. Everyones already counted us the **** out, so go do something special.

Then, to walk the walk after talking the talk, leading the team to 7 straight touchdowns and 8 scoring drives, throwing 5 touchdown passes, and displaying a fiery emotion that if you dont feel anything when you see this kid going nuts after a huge play, call the coroner, because youre already dead.

The two qbs could not be further apart. Jackson cannot hold Mahomes jock when it comes to putting the team on his back.

Lamar should consider signing with KC as a running back. Its the only way barring injury to Mahomes, that hes ever getting a ring.

Mahomes is the MVP. Its not even close. Lamar is a running back executing the halfback pass play about 20-25 times a game.

Jacksons first two years have ended with dud playoff performances.

Mahomes first two years as a starter sees his team hosting back to back AFC title games for a frachise that in its entire history never hosted a single one before he arrived.

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Old 01-16-2020, 11:07 AM   #46
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Patrick is the only QB in the league where you could probably throw it on 100% of the snaps if you wanted. Heck, the Chiefs run game is pretty lousy and often just puts them in longer conversion scenarios.

Lamar is a hell of a player, but I wouldn’t feel comfortable with him throwing it more than 25ish times in a game. He threw it almost 60 times the other day and they lost in convincing fashion.
Exactly. Get up 2 scores on Lamar, its a wrap. All of their losses this year occurred when they had to abandon that rushing attack and rely on Lamars passing to try to come back.
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Old 01-16-2020, 11:11 AM   #47
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The best ability is availability.

While Lamar is pretty good... his career is going to be very short due to the amount of risk he takes as a running back.
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Old 01-16-2020, 11:11 AM   #48
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i ****ing love this thread

we dedicated 3 different threads and thousands of posts to shitting on our old QB

not we are going to do the same thing to someone else's QB because we have ours

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Old 01-16-2020, 11:11 AM   #49
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Where have you seen that Lamar is in the same league as Mahomes as a QB? Link?
Literally ever single Sunday on every NFL game day show. Every single day on every talk radio show. Every day on all the football podcast. The Lamar hype went way beyond anything for Mahomes.

Mahomes had a historic 50 TD and 5000-yard season and half the ****ing media wanted to give the MVP to Brees.

Lamar had his MVP wrapped up halfway through the season. They hyped him up as the greatest QB ever and so when the Ravens lost, the media could not except that he is just above average. Now they are building the Titans up to mythical status, mostly for beating the overhyped Lamar.
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Old 01-16-2020, 11:12 AM   #50
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Generally, i dont feed the trolls, but you look hungry lil fella.

All those qb comparisons, and who would you rather have topics on those shows all season. Generally, just about every talking head has had this topic multiple times.

Obviously if you have to have this as a topic of debate, you must believe that hes in the same league as Mahomes.

Jesus. I gotta start carrying crayons around with me.
So no link? Cool.
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Old 01-16-2020, 11:13 AM   #51
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Literally ever single Sunday on every NFL game day show. Every single day on every talk radio show. Every day on all the football podcast. The Lamar hype went way beyond anything for Mahomes.

Mahomes had a historic 50 TD and 5000-yard season and half the ****ing media wanted to give the MVP to Brees.

Lamar had his MVP wrapped up halfway through the season. They hyped him up as the greatest QB ever and so when the Ravens lost, the media could not except that he is just above average. Now they are building the Titans up to mythical status, mostly for beating the overhyped Lamar.
I swear you guys just make narratives up and run with them...like Lamar does.
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Old 01-16-2020, 11:19 AM   #52
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Lamar is not a franchise QB. He doesn't have the throwing ability and won't win the game with his brain.
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Old 01-16-2020, 11:19 AM   #53
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Old 01-16-2020, 11:21 AM   #54
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I swear you guys just make narratives up and run with them...like Lamar does.
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Old 01-16-2020, 11:22 AM   #55
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I swear you guys just make narratives up and run with them...like Lamar does.
Turn on a tv or radio, dip shit
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Old 01-16-2020, 11:25 AM   #56
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I swear you guys just make narratives up and run with them...like Lamar does.

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Old 01-16-2020, 11:29 AM   #57
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I would say the primary difference between the two is that Baltimore's QB can't actually throw a football.
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I swear you guys just make narratives up and run with them...like Lamar does.


Really, I am making up a narrative that the NFL media has been hanging off Jackson's jock all year?

Have you been under a rock on game day? Did you not see all the hype after the Ravens steamrolled the Rams?

Credit to the Ravens to put a system around Lamar to bring out his strengths as a play-action runner- but he is not the Michael Jordan of the NFL or a pure QB by any stretch.
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Why are you comparing a running back to a quarterback?
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Old 01-16-2020, 11:33 AM   #60
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Lamar is not a franchise QB. He doesn't have the throwing ability and won't win the game with his brain.
Also not sure about leadership qualities. Mahomes has proven in back to back playoff games that he can rally the troops and make a very strong charge with his back against the wall.

*31 effing points in the 2nd half on a Belichick defense that gave up only 3 points in 4 quarters to a Rams offense that scored 30 per game on everyone else.

*51-7 domination after being down 24-0 to a Texans team that features the supposedly super clutch Deshaun Watson.
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