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Obamacare is postponed one year for...
...large corporations.
ObamaCare is still going into effect in 2014, but one key component of it is being temporarily shelved. The White House today postponed by one year a rule requiring employers to either provide coverage to employees or face hefty fines, reports the Wall Street Journal. The rule will take effect in 2015, instead of 2014... Link: http://www.newser.com/story/170420/b...-one-year.html It is better to duck the rising premium during the election year. Smart move! |
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How? Only minor parts are functional and most of the provisions don't take effect until next year.
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3) under Obamacare not a chance. In some hippy co-op world where we all hold hands and do what is best, possibly. 4)I am ALL for this one, didn't need Obamacare for this though. This problem was a result of earlier govt protectionism of big insurance that should have never been in place. |
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The thing you fail to get STILL even after I have explained it to you is they ALREADY get health CARE and we (the workers) ALREADY pay for it, and its insanely expensive.
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This is one of the only things I am 100% behind. Obamacare of course had to do it in a ****ed up overly bureaucratic govt interfering way but THIS is at least a half assed step in the right direction that I can get behind.
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What you have yet to explain then is where these massive saving are then? I certainly am not seeing them. If you are reducing an insanely expensive cost from the system then we should see a tangible cost benefit for those of us already paying. Yet we aren't.
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Get it through your head..no Repubs voted for this and to say the Dems had not counted on that is as stupid as passing a bill they knew nothing about. It was no secret the Repubs would not vote for this yet here you are trying to pass that shit off.
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Obamacare reduces red tape on that front. It makes the single largest improvement in American history towards being able to easily buy health insurance across state lines, something everybody and their mother wants. Again, this was a Republican idea. It's simply been accepted and pragmatically supported by a Democratic President who was willing to settle on it as a compromise. A compromise that has been treated as the second coming of the Third Reich by the GOP. |
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Pete, it's just like the stimulus: if it works, take full credit for the success. If it fails, just blame the GOP for wrecking it. No lose politics.
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Say the Democrats put up a bill today saying "let's repeal the employer mandate and replace it with a drastically less damaging solution for employers, such as having to provide health insurance to their employees on a per capita basis rather than an arbitrary 50+ employees limit." You tell me, Pete: What percentage of Democrats vote for that, and what percentage of Republicans vote for it? My guess, 90+% of Democrats vote for it. 0% of Republicans vote for it. So you tell me -- if Democrats vote to get rid of this policy in the law, but Republicans don't vote for it, who's to blame for it remaining in the law? |
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I doubt seriously it has had had any effect on prices... In my opinion, we need to actually be able to see some data before jumping to conclusions...How can we have any data at this point, when the plan isnt fully implemented for over a year more? And even then it might take a little longer for competition and more people entering the pool to have any effect on pricing... I think you are being unrealistic here, but hey you are the genius so you tell me.
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You wanted Obamacare, you passed Obamacare and now you don't want to deal with the fallout of Obamacare so you blame the people who didn't cast 1 single vote for it. ![]()
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But direck says its already lowering costs?
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