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Old 01-13-2013, 03:25 PM  
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Small, possibly misguided, rant...

I think icing the kicker in the NFL is dumb...
But...
If a time out is called, I don't think the kicker should be allowed that practice kick.
Players are expected to stop running full speed into a ball carrier on the whistle. Players are expected to veer away from a QB as soon as the ball leaves his hands. Players are expected to adjust their hitting angle based on the offensive player's head placement, all split second decisions. There's no reason a kicker can't stop on the whistle.
I understand that I'm comparing apples to oranges, and that the rules I mentioned are about "player safety," where kicking a free ball isn't. However, if I'm a defensive player, and the kicker is gonna get a chance to practice the exact kick he'll be trying, and everyone else has stopped, I'm blocking the damn thing... And then it does become a player safety issue.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:17 PM   #61
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Sounds like a good reason for coaches to stop taking these stupid "icing" timeouts.
I was wondering if Pete wished he still had that timeout on the last play....
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:21 PM   #62
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They had 2 timeouts left and 3 seconds on the clock.

Once they ran out of bounds after the first play, they were sitting on the 48 facing a 65 yard FG with 2 timeouts they weren't going to have a use for.

So why not burn one on the long FG 'trial' and if you see your kicker doesn't have the leg for it, you go out there and do the hail mary.

I wouldn't use my last timeout on something like that, nor would I give up a pass play or time off the clock. But in the situation I just described, there's nothing to be lost by the effort.
I thought they were out of timeouts and the ice was the final one
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:21 PM   #63
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It's not playstation.

If a kicker ever misses a kick on purpose, he's a moron. There is so much muscle memory involved that it's insane to try to tinker with it to intentionally miss a kick.

Bryant simply yacked the kick but when he saw what it did, he was able to make an immediate adjustment and try again.

The 'ice' backfired perfectly on Carrol there and that is the 'market' solution to the icing attempts. And ultimately I think the fact that so many coaches have stopped doing them suggests that they're figuring this out as well.
Actually..... Many kickers "in practice" aim for the upright to see how accurate they are. At least that's what Janikowski does, and he doesn't suck...
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:30 PM   #64
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Old 01-13-2013, 06:43 PM   #65
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I say the called timeout is bullshit. The kicker should kick as many as he can in between plays...
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