Other Sports MLB prepared to ban Alex Rodriguez for life - Page 11

Rams Fan · 07-31-2013, 05:36 PM

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Commissioner Bud Selig is prepared to levy a lifetime suspension on New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, while suspending about eight others before the weekend, two people with knowledge of the negotiations told USA TODAY Sports.

The people were unauthorized to speak publicly because no announcement is expected until Thursday or Friday.

Rodriguez, according to his attorney, David Cornwell, will appeal any suspension, regardless of the severity. The other players are expected to receive 50-game bans, and most are considering accepting the discipline without appealing, according to one of the people.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...nesis/2606319/

Mr. Laz · 08-01-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

So you agree that it should be allowed, then? Level the playing field. Don't need to worry about "cheating".

yea, that's what i said alright ... nothing wrong with your reading comprehension

nothing at all

**Saul Good** · 08-01-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

yea, that's what i said alright ... nothing wrong with your reading comprehension

nothing at all

I don't expect you to understand my point, but the rest of the posters here appear to be intelligent.

If your opposition to steroid use is based on competitive balance and fairness, allowing them would remove your issues. Half of the league has used at some point, and every decent player is accused of it, anyway. Just legalize it, and your issues go away.

Of course, you don't want those issues to go away. You want to bitch about how unfair things are.

**J Diddy** · 08-01-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

I don't expect you to understand my point, but the rest of the posters here appear to be intelligent.

If your opposition to steroid use is based on competitive balance and fairness, allowing them would remove your issues. Half of the league has used at some point, and every decent player is accused of it, anyway. Just legalize it, and your issues go away.

Of course, you don't want those issues to go away. You want to bitch about how unfair things are.

That's a pretty ****ing reeruned idea. Because half the league has used it, in order for the other half to gain parity they have to harm their bodies to maintain?

Let's punish the guys doing right until they do wrong. That's a good ol idea.

MIAdragon · 08-01-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

Make no mistake: the MLB is clearly trying to help the Yankees out by getting them out of that contract. If it were any other team (besides maybe the Red Sox or Phillies) a lifetime ban wouldn't even be on the table.

Not buying that at all.

Frazod · 08-01-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon

Not buying that at all.

Frankly, I think it's the only thing that makes sense.

Signing Alex to that contract was insane. We're hemorrhaging cash and he's done. The fans hate him. The players hate him. What can we do?

Get our hand puppet Selig to ban him for life!

Brilliant!

**Saul Good** · 08-01-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

That's a pretty ****ing reeruned idea. Because half the league has used it, in order for the other half to gain parity they have to harm their bodies to maintain?

Let's punish the guys doing right until they do wrong. That's a good ol idea.

He didn't object to it because it's harmful. He objected to it because of fairness. If he had objected to it because of some (mostly imaginary) danger, that would be a different story.

**J Diddy** · 08-01-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

He didn't object to it because it's harmful. He objected to it because of fairness. If he had objected to it because of some (mostly imaginary) danger, that would be a different story.

Your solution doesn't take into account that in order for it to be "fair" it requires people who may wish not to take "imaginary dangerous" drugs in order to get on the field.

I repeat once more, sir. That's ****ing reeruned.

**Saul Good** · 08-01-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

Your solution doesn't take into account that in order for it to be "fair" it requires people who may wish not to take "imaginary dangerous" drugs in order to get on the field.

I repeat once more, sir. That's ****ing reeruned.

Again...I was addressing HIS concerns...not every possible objection. Allowing them would solve HIS concerns that he listed.

As far as YOUR concerns go, there are people in MLB who use...and there are people who don't. Why would non-users suddenly be forced to use?

**J Diddy** · 08-01-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Again...I was addressing HIS concerns...not every possible objection. Allowing them would solve HIS concerns that he listed.

As far as YOUR concerns go, there are people in MLB who use...and there are people who don't. Why would non-users suddenly be forced to use?

If these are isolated events and limited to (from what I've seen) superstars imagine a green light where everyone is a superstar. How can a player with the same skill set even have a chance when the advantage is going to the one pushing needles in their veins?

Answer: they cannot.

**Saul Good** · 08-01-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

If these are isolated events and limited to (from what I've seen) superstars imagine a green light where everyone is a superstar. How can a player with the same skill set even have a chance when the advantage is going to the one pushing needles in their veins?

Answer: they cannot.

You think it's limited to superstars? Really?

Rams Fan · 08-01-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

You think it's limited to superstars? Really?

Adding onto that, there are examples of guys who weren't stars(Melky Cabrera, Ryan Franklin, Andy Pettite, Carlos Ruiz, Bartolo Colon, etc) that have either admitted to using PEDs or been suspended for them.

Setsuna · 08-01-2013, 01:03 PM

I refuse to believe steroid use led to championships or honors. All these guys were very good players in their own right. When some nobody gets into the HoF due to steroids, then the bleeding hearts can go ahead and bleed out.

blaise · 08-01-2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Clayton Bibsby

I refuse to believe steroid use led to championships or honors. All these guys were very good players in their own right. When some nobody gets into the HoF due to steroids, then the bleeding hearts can go ahead and bleed out.

Yeah, well they did them for a reason, so they obviously felt they helped. You can't tell me steroids didn't help Bonds get the HR record.

jettio · 08-01-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Agreed

One side rails against steroids but can't really form a coherent argument for why.

The other side can make logical arguments for allowing them but still feels dirty for doing so.

If using unprescribed PEDs is against the law and your sport has a drug policy, then it is just plain wrong to break the law and cheat.

It is not fair to the players who obey the law and do not cheat.

I think the NFL's drug policy may be closer to what you are proposing all sports should adopt. The NFL seems to allow for prescription use for rehab because players sure are rehabbing faster than they used to.

If a sport wants to allow a more liberal policy regards drugs it should be collectively bargained and medically sound and supervised so that it does not have players breaking the law or the sport's rules.

**Saul Good** · 08-01-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio

If using unprescribed PEDs is against the law and your sport has a drug policy, then it is just plain wrong to break the law and cheat.

It is not fair to the players who obey the law and do not cheat.

I think the NFL's drug policy may be closer to what you are proposing all sports should adopt. The NFL seems to allow for prescription use for rehab because players sure are rehabbing faster than they used to.

If a sport wants to allow a more liberal policy regards drugs it should be collectively bargained and medically sound and supervised so that it does not have players breaking the law or the sport's rules.

More simply put, they could just leave it up to the players and their doctors and stay out of it.

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