MU ****The OFFICIAL 2013 Mizzou Tigers Basketball Thread**** - Page 256

**Saul Good** · 01-09-2013, 08:42 PM

MIZ-SEC

ArrowheadMagic · 03-23-2013, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious

Brad Stevens. No question.

You arent prying the middle two away... Howland is Haith. With a bigger paycheck.

Captain Obvious · 03-23-2013, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic

You arent prying the middle two away... Howland is Haith. With a bigger paycheck.

Damn. I thought my answer to a random question on a message board would give Missouri the ability to pry Brad Stevens away from Butler. Now I'm all disappointed.

ArrowheadMagic · 03-23-2013, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious

Damn. I thought my answer to a random question on a message board would give Missouri the ability to pry Brad Stevens away from Butler. Now I'm all disappointed.

While you're wishing, why not Bill Self....wait... you already passed him over

Captain Obvious · 03-23-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic

While you're wishing, why not Bill Self....wait... you already passed him over

He wasn't one of the 4 answers to choose from. What don't you understand about Como's question?

ArrowheadMagic · 03-23-2013, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious

Damn. I thought my answer to a random question on a message board would give Missouri the ability to pry Brad Stevens away from Butler. Now I'm all disappointed.

Offered an observation. Few schools are prying them away. Missouri isnt one of them. Is what it is. Apologize for kicking sand into your vagina.

ArrowheadMagic · 03-23-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious

He wasn't one of the 4 answers to choose from. What don't you understand about Como's question?

Changing coaches every couple of years isnt the answer. Its what mid majors do

ArrowheadMagic · 03-23-2013, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Obvious

He wasn't one of the 4 answers to choose from. What don't you understand about Como's question?

Why not have reasonable expectations? You...Mizzou arent where the 2 middle coaches leave million dollar jobs. UCLA might get one of them...Smart

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-23-2013, 10:54 PM

Smart wouldn't fit well at UCLA unless he totally changes his system. He'll never get the elite guys running that defense because they don't want to drive their asses into the ground with "40 minutes of bad knees" to quote my boy Denmon.

Someone should congratulate English over at PM for playing 12 minutes and fouling out with 0 points last night. Only happened three times this year in the entire league.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-23-2013, 11:01 PM

Here's another thing:

I don't believe for a minute that Oriakhi was a chemistry issue. He played AAU ball w/ Pressey and was the most passionate player on our team. I don't see it with Bell either, as he comfortably settled into his role and was always judicious with the ball. I could see Flop developing an issue with Bell simply because he handled the point when Haith sat Pressey for one who sucks the penisy.

I see Brown as a team-killer, so that doesn't surprise me at all. Look at how well Oregon has done. Ross is built like Ron Artest and has the mental and physical game of Adam Morrison. It's a ****ing travesty.

Still, who went after those guys? Who constructed this team in his mind?

It's a bullshit excuse to cover for a selfish point guard and a foot shuffling porter of a HC.

Stanley Nickels · 03-23-2013, 11:09 PM

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KimEnglish
Re: number of PMers with nba draft selections this June. Reply
The title of the thread was simply to make the point that none of us who subscribe to this website HAVE A SINGLE DRAFT CHOICE this June.. Not that.. No one is athletic or shouldn't have an opinion. I never remotely said that.. None of you know what it entails to be a potential draft pick. Let you guys tell it, if we archived threads... I would be playing in Europe somewhere right now and had no shot at the league because I couldn't handle the ball, guard and wasn't athletic enough..

All I'm saying we have no clue what NBA GM's will see in the asset that is Phil Pressey, come June 27th.

But on a side note.. I looooooovveee how some ppl on here can talk reckless about ppl to no avail behind a screen name.. But when one possible jab is thrown (although it really wasn't a jab). Ppl feelings get hurt..
"just because I didn't play, doesn't mean I don't have an opinion"
"I'm a TSF donator"
"I know good ball when I see it"
"Let us fans talk all we want"

Blah blah blah blah

Keep on keepin' on; you're really helping yourself there, Kimmie.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-23-2013, 11:11 PM

The one text message I sent today was in relation to Kim English:

"**** that choking mother****er".

BourbonMan · 03-24-2013, 08:53 PM

COLUMBIA — With Missouri’s basketball season over, and senior starters Alex Oriakhi, Laurence Bowers and Keion Bell out of eligibility, it’s time to look to 2013-14, which is shaping up to be pivotal for coach Frank Haith

After two years in which Haith reached tremendous highs and lows, next season’s team could be his first at Missouri with a roster of only players he has recruited, a good measuring stick to judge basketball coaches.

But whether Haith will be measured that way is up in the air. It’s unclear if junior Phil Pressey, who was recruited to Missouri by former coach Mike Anderson, will turn pro.

Though Pressey, a 5-foot-11 point guard who averaged 11.9 points and 7.1 assists per game, was a lightning rod for criticism by MU fans because of his penchant for quick shots and turnovers, there’s little doubt that he will seriously explore entering the NBA Draft in June.

Players have until April 28 to declare, but they must withdraw by April 16 to return to college.

When asked about his future Thursday night after the Tigers’ loss to Colorado State in their NCAA Tournament opener, Pressey said he wasn’t sure when he would make a decision about the NBA. He was then asked how hungry he was to come back for his senior year after three opening-game NCAA exits in his career with the Tigers.

“It makes you just want to go back to the drawing board and get back in the gym,” Pressey said. “You can only dwell on this loss for so long until you want to get back in the gym and get better and look forward to next season.”

In a recent interview, Pressey’s father — Cleveland Cavaliers assistant coach Paul Pressey — was adamant that no decisions had been made about his son’s future.

“What that will be,” Paul Pressey said sternly, “I don’t know.”

Matt Pressey, Phil’s older brother and a former Tiger, said the same in a recent interview.

“He’s in no rush,” Matt said of Phil. “It’s all about timing, I can tell you that.”

Yet, Pressey, 22, might decide the time is right for him to go. Though he’s currently projected to go in the second round by ESPN’s Chad Ford, the 2014 NBA Draft is widely expected to be strong, so Pressey might not improve his standing by returning to MU.

And while Pressey has had his share of struggles this season — shot selection and a rising turnover rate among them — Paul cited his son’s heavy minutes and increased ballhandling responsibilities for some of the problems. Paul has previously stated a belief that Phil will be a better pro than college player because the NBA game is a little more wide open.

“I’m glad he’s going through these things, because like I said, at the end of the day, as he moves along his career — and (hopefully) God blesses him to get the next level — he will be a better player because he’ll have better skill players on a different level around him where he doesn’t have to be the primary ball handler,” Paul Pressey said. “San Antonio has three or four of them, Oklahoma City has three or four of them. They’ve got guys that can release each other.”

Should Pressey leave for the NBA, the Tigers likely will have a number of guards share ballhandling responsibilities next season. At the forefront will be junior Jordan Clarkson, a 6-foot-5 combo guard who will be eligible after sitting out due to the NCAA’s transfer rules. As a sophomore at Tulsa, Clarkson led the team with 16.5 points per game while averaging 3.9 rebounds and 2.5 assists as a lead guard.

Haith can also turn to four-star incoming freshman Wes Clark, a 6-foot point guard from Michigan who led Romulus High School to a 27-1 record and its first state title in 27 years this season. Clark is rated by Rivals.com as the nation’s 71st-best player and was a fast riser in the recruiting ranks due to his strong play last summer.

“Wes is the ultimate competitor,” Haith said when Clark signed his letter of intent in November. “He is one of those point guards that won’t give you an inch. He is all about winning and did it at a high level in a very good basketball state, Michigan.”

Should Haith choose not to hand over his team to a freshman immediately, Clarkson could start at the point and be joined by two experienced guards — junior Jabari Brown, who averaged 13.7 points, and senior Earnest Ross, who averaged 10.3 — in the backcourt. Ross also played at the four-spot this season and could do the same if Pressey returns.

Sophomores Negus Webster-Chan and Dominique Bull would conceivably add to the team’s perimeter depth, though it’s unclear how much either will contribute next season because of the guards in front of them.

Stefan Jankovic, a 6-11 forward, saw his playing time dwindle as his freshman season went on, but showed flashes of being a dangerous offensive player on the perimeter. He should return after a full offseason under strength coach Todor Pandov with more muscle packed on his 230-pound frame and challenge for the starting four-spot next to 6-9 senior Tony Criswell, who is developing into a solid post defender and has the inside track at the starting center position.

Should Jankovic and Criswell prove to be the best frontcourt options, MU’s starting lineup would feature four capable three-point shooters and a decent pick-and-roll option in Criswell, which could allow Haith to return to the four-out, one-in offense the Tigers rode to a 30-5 record in 2011-12 but largely scrapped this season to better take advantage of different talent.

Still, several more players will figure into the frontcourt mix, including 6-10 sophomore Ryan Rosburg, who earned more playing time than Jankovic while serving as Oriakhi’s backup this season, and incoming 6-9 swing forward Johnathan Williams III, the No. 50 player in the country according to Rivals who led Memphis Southwind High to a state championship and is regarded as an athletic player who can crash the boards and potentially defend the rim.

“His size and skill-set are unique and he can present mismatch problems for opponents,” Haith said in November. “He is smooth on the perimeter and is long and active and really has a great feel for how to attack his opponent and keep his teammates involved.”

Two more incoming MU players are four-star prospect Keanau Post, a 6-foot-11, 260-pound center who’s transferring from Southwestern Illinois Community College, and three-star forward Torren Jones. They will give the Tigers plenty of size and options down low, a potential boon whether Pressey returns or not, though that’s a question that certainly figures to linger until the April 16 deadline.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/03/23...#storylink=cpy

Jerm · 03-24-2013, 08:58 PM

If Pressey goes pro it'll make my suspicions of his play this year rise ten fold...

He has no business going pro so it'd definitely make me wonder...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-24-2013, 09:04 PM

His dad's attempted defense of Pressey's play is absolutely ridiculous. Great college ball-handlers couldn't hack it in the NBA because of the length, speed, and athleticism of NBA guards. Pressey will get eaten alive and end up in the Finnish league with Jason Conley.

Al Bundy · 03-24-2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

His dad's attempted defense of Pressey's play is absolutely ridiculous. Great college ball-handlers couldn't hack it in the NBA because of the length, speed, and athleticism of NBA guards. Pressey will get eaten alive and end up in the Finnish league with Jason Conley.

His dad of all people should know his son isn't NBA caliber.

01-09-2013, 08:42 PM
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03-23-2013, 10:54 PM	#3833
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8039572	Smart wouldn't fit well at UCLA unless he totally changes his system. He'll never get the elite guys running that defense because they don't want to drive their asses into the ground with "40 minutes of bad knees" to quote my boy Denmon. Someone should congratulate English over at PM for playing 12 minutes and fouling out with 0 points last night. Only happened three times this year in the entire league. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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03-23-2013, 11:01 PM	#3834
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8039572	Here's another thing: I don't believe for a minute that Oriakhi was a chemistry issue. He played AAU ball w/ Pressey and was the most passionate player on our team. I don't see it with Bell either, as he comfortably settled into his role and was always judicious with the ball. I could see Flop developing an issue with Bell simply because he handled the point when Haith sat Pressey for one who sucks the penisy. I see Brown as a team-killer, so that doesn't surprise me at all. Look at how well Oregon has done. Ross is built like Ron Artest and has the mental and physical game of Adam Morrison. It's a ****ing travesty. Still, who went after those guys? Who constructed this team in his mind? It's a bullshit excuse to cover for a selfish point guard and a foot shuffling porter of a HC. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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03-23-2013, 11:11 PM	#3836
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8039572	The one text message I sent today was in relation to Kim English: "** that choking mother**er". __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
Posts: 74,814

03-24-2013, 08:53 PM	#3837
BourbonMan The Dude Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: topeka Casino cash: $10004900	COLUMBIA — With Missouri’s basketball season over, and senior starters Alex Oriakhi, Laurence Bowers and Keion Bell out of eligibility, it’s time to look to 2013-14, which is shaping up to be pivotal for coach Frank Haith After two years in which Haith reached tremendous highs and lows, next season’s team could be his first at Missouri with a roster of only players he has recruited, a good measuring stick to judge basketball coaches. But whether Haith will be measured that way is up in the air. It’s unclear if junior Phil Pressey, who was recruited to Missouri by former coach Mike Anderson, will turn pro. Though Pressey, a 5-foot-11 point guard who averaged 11.9 points and 7.1 assists per game, was a lightning rod for criticism by MU fans because of his penchant for quick shots and turnovers, there’s little doubt that he will seriously explore entering the NBA Draft in June. Players have until April 28 to declare, but they must withdraw by April 16 to return to college. When asked about his future Thursday night after the Tigers’ loss to Colorado State in their NCAA Tournament opener, Pressey said he wasn’t sure when he would make a decision about the NBA. He was then asked how hungry he was to come back for his senior year after three opening-game NCAA exits in his career with the Tigers. “It makes you just want to go back to the drawing board and get back in the gym,” Pressey said. “You can only dwell on this loss for so long until you want to get back in the gym and get better and look forward to next season.” In a recent interview, Pressey’s father — Cleveland Cavaliers assistant coach Paul Pressey — was adamant that no decisions had been made about his son’s future. “What that will be,” Paul Pressey said sternly, “I don’t know.” Matt Pressey, Phil’s older brother and a former Tiger, said the same in a recent interview. “He’s in no rush,” Matt said of Phil. “It’s all about timing, I can tell you that.” Yet, Pressey, 22, might decide the time is right for him to go. Though he’s currently projected to go in the second round by ESPN’s Chad Ford, the 2014 NBA Draft is widely expected to be strong, so Pressey might not improve his standing by returning to MU. And while Pressey has had his share of struggles this season — shot selection and a rising turnover rate among them — Paul cited his son’s heavy minutes and increased ballhandling responsibilities for some of the problems. Paul has previously stated a belief that Phil will be a better pro than college player because the NBA game is a little more wide open. “I’m glad he’s going through these things, because like I said, at the end of the day, as he moves along his career — and (hopefully) God blesses him to get the next level — he will be a better player because he’ll have better skill players on a different level around him where he doesn’t have to be the primary ball handler,” Paul Pressey said. “San Antonio has three or four of them, Oklahoma City has three or four of them. They’ve got guys that can release each other.” Should Pressey leave for the NBA, the Tigers likely will have a number of guards share ballhandling responsibilities next season. At the forefront will be junior Jordan Clarkson, a 6-foot-5 combo guard who will be eligible after sitting out due to the NCAA’s transfer rules. As a sophomore at Tulsa, Clarkson led the team with 16.5 points per game while averaging 3.9 rebounds and 2.5 assists as a lead guard. Haith can also turn to four-star incoming freshman Wes Clark, a 6-foot point guard from Michigan who led Romulus High School to a 27-1 record and its first state title in 27 years this season. Clark is rated by Rivals.com as the nation’s 71st-best player and was a fast riser in the recruiting ranks due to his strong play last summer. “Wes is the ultimate competitor,” Haith said when Clark signed his letter of intent in November. “He is one of those point guards that won’t give you an inch. He is all about winning and did it at a high level in a very good basketball state, Michigan.” Should Haith choose not to hand over his team to a freshman immediately, Clarkson could start at the point and be joined by two experienced guards — junior Jabari Brown, who averaged 13.7 points, and senior Earnest Ross, who averaged 10.3 — in the backcourt. Ross also played at the four-spot this season and could do the same if Pressey returns. Sophomores Negus Webster-Chan and Dominique Bull would conceivably add to the team’s perimeter depth, though it’s unclear how much either will contribute next season because of the guards in front of them. Stefan Jankovic, a 6-11 forward, saw his playing time dwindle as his freshman season went on, but showed flashes of being a dangerous offensive player on the perimeter. He should return after a full offseason under strength coach Todor Pandov with more muscle packed on his 230-pound frame and challenge for the starting four-spot next to 6-9 senior Tony Criswell, who is developing into a solid post defender and has the inside track at the starting center position. Should Jankovic and Criswell prove to be the best frontcourt options, MU’s starting lineup would feature four capable three-point shooters and a decent pick-and-roll option in Criswell, which could allow Haith to return to the four-out, one-in offense the Tigers rode to a 30-5 record in 2011-12 but largely scrapped this season to better take advantage of different talent. Still, several more players will figure into the frontcourt mix, including 6-10 sophomore Ryan Rosburg, who earned more playing time than Jankovic while serving as Oriakhi’s backup this season, and incoming 6-9 swing forward Johnathan Williams III, the No. 50 player in the country according to Rivals who led Memphis Southwind High to a state championship and is regarded as an athletic player who can crash the boards and potentially defend the rim. “His size and skill-set are unique and he can present mismatch problems for opponents,” Haith said in November. “He is smooth on the perimeter and is long and active and really has a great feel for how to attack his opponent and keep his teammates involved.” Two more incoming MU players are four-star prospect Keanau Post, a 6-foot-11, 260-pound center who’s transferring from Southwestern Illinois Community College, and three-star forward Torren Jones. They will give the Tigers plenty of size and options down low, a potential boon whether Pressey returns or not, though that’s a question that certainly figures to linger until the April 16 deadline. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/03/23...#storylink=cpy __________________ FALSE START OFFENSE(EAGLES), EVERYBODY BUT THE CENTER!!!!!
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03-24-2013, 08:58 PM	#3838
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03-24-2013, 09:04 PM	#3839
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8039572	His dad's attempted defense of Pressey's play is absolutely ridiculous. Great college ball-handlers couldn't hack it in the NBA because of the length, speed, and athleticism of NBA guards. Pressey will get eaten alive and end up in the Finnish league with Jason Conley. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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