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**KcMizzou** · 10-16-2013, 08:27 PM

Chiefs’ defense isn’t only fueling undefeated start, it could be record-breaking

By SAM MELLINGER
The Kansas City Star

Look, there are a dozen reasons this whole thing will be as outdated as a flip-phone soon enough, but while the numbers line up we might as well say it out loud:

This Chiefs defense has a chance to go down as one of the best in recent NFL memory.

Honest.

Now, we’re all adults here. We all know the Chiefs’ first six opponents included the Jaguars and maybe two playoff teams (the Titans and someone from the awful NFC East) while their next 10 opponents include five currently in the top five in offense (starting this week against the Texans, and peaking with two games against the Broncos).

So what the Chiefs are doing at the moment is a bit like leading a marathon at mile six, but, well, after years of throwing up in the sponsors’ tent by this point, it’s worth taking a moment to recognize that this defense isn’t just fueling a 6-0 start, it’s playing at a historic pace.

On Wednesday, Tamba Hali was announced as the AFC’s defensive player of the week. That means that, between Hali and fellow linebacker Justin Houston, the Chiefs have won the award three of a possible six times. And Houston was chosen defensive player of the month for September.

The turnaround is nothing short of astonishing, the combination of a strengthened secondary and a major shift in philosophy toward organized chaos. Hali often talks of a specific change: from poring over film a year ago for better understanding of opponents, to a new aggression that forces offenses to do the reacting.

The best way to illustrate the change might be to point out that the defense has given up seven touchdowns and five field goals while scoring four touchdowns of their own and forcing turnovers that gave the offense the ball in plus-territory 11 other times.

Think of it like this: Opponents have been 50 percent more likely to turn the ball over than to manage even a field goal against the Chiefs, regardless of field position.

But the easiest place to start — the place most people like to start — is with the pass rush. The Chiefs lead the NFL with 31 sacks, which is not only more than they had all of last year, but on a pace (82.7) to eclipse the 1984 Bears’ NFL record of 72.

Ten different Chiefs have sacked the quarterback compared to six all of last year. Houston, Hali and Dontari Poe form perhaps the best trio in the NFL: Houston leads the league in sacks, Hali is fourth, and only one interior lineman has more sacks than Poe.

Any talk about the Chiefs’ success to this point includes the caveat of their remarkably easy schedule, but it’s also true that of their six opponents, four have scored their fewest points of the season against the Chiefs. The exceptions are the Giants (seven against Kansas City) and Titans (17). The Eagles and Cowboys each rank in the league’s top five in points scored and were a combined 25 points under their season averages against the Chiefs.

The statistical case is overwhelming. The Chiefs are giving up just 10.8 points per game and are on pace for 48 takeaways. Both marks would be the best since the famous 2000 Ravens, who gave up 10.3 points per game, forced 49 turnovers and won Super Bowl XXXV.

NFL people talk all the time about the increased importance of the passing game, right? Well, the Chiefs are giving up a scant 4.4 yards per pass attempt, which would be the lowest average since the 2008 Super Bowl champion Steelers. The Chiefs are allowing opposing quarterbacks a meager 59.8 passer rating, which would be the lowest mark the league has seen since the 2009 Jets defense that dragged Mark Sanchez to the AFC championship game.

It’s not all the schedule, either. Football Outsiders has a metric that takes into account strength of opponents. The Chiefs have the best score in the NFL, better than the Seahawks. In fact, the Chiefs are on pace for the best mark in the six-year history of Pro Football Focus’ measurement.

Again, the games that will define the Chiefs’ season are still to come. They haven’t faced offenses as good as the ones that remain on the schedule.

Thing is, none of those teams has faced a defense that’s playing as well as the Chiefs, either.

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/16...this-team.html

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-16-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Agreed. And I believe the offense will get better.

Perhaps Fasano will tip the balance. If not, give the ATL whatever they want.
We suck at drafting anyway.

keg in kc · 10-16-2013, 09:02 PM

Being 6-0 is also going to have a detrimental effect on our strength of schedule, same as it does for Denver.

**KcMizzou** · 10-16-2013, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

I'm not anxious for it, but I can't shake the feeling that it's going to happen. We're conditioned to feel that way as Chiefs fans.

Well everyone except Halfcan, he thinks we're going to win the ****ing Super Bowl.

Man, I'm a Chiefs fan and a Mizzou fan. So I've got a little bit of that in me all the time. But I don't let it touch my enjoyment of the successes.

Shit may go bad, but I'm not gonna be all gloom and doom expecting it to.

Shit's good right now!

**Bugeater** · 10-16-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Man, I'm a Chiefs fan and a Mizzou fan. So I've got a little bit of that in me all the time. But I don't let it touch my enjoyment of the successes.

Shit may go bad, but I'm not gonna be all gloom and doom expecting it to.

Shit's good right now!

I'm not saying that I'm not enjoying the hell out of the ride.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-16-2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

I'm not saying that I'm not enjoying the hell out of the ride.

I enjoy the games and most assuredly the wins. At least we are watchable now.

That said, the offense is pure flustration.

Fairplay · 10-16-2013, 09:15 PM

Please God let the Chiefs win a SB soon, pretty please?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-16-2013, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay

Please God let the Chiefs win a SB soon, pretty please?

A few FA tweaks to the line and stability at the TE position can get it done, even this year.

Hog Rider · 10-16-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Being 6-0 is also going to have a detrimental effect on our strength of schedule, same as it does for Denver.

This

..and we better start losing double-quick to get a better draft pick.

**KcMizzou** · 10-16-2013, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I'm not saying that I'm not enjoying the hell out of the ride.

**Bugeater** · 10-16-2013, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Rider

This

..and we better start losing double-quick to get a better draft pick.

Speaking of which...I bet Mecca is furious about this.

milkman · 10-16-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

There are only 2 games affected by that, and we haven't played them yet. Bills and Browns coming up here in a couple weeks.

It feels as though people have to told this simple fact every damn day.

**Mav** · 10-16-2013, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay

Please God let the Chiefs win a SB soon, pretty please?

The Lord cast his son, the Mighty Bob Sutton down upon Missouri to land in a place that needed his leadership the most. "Go to the Chiefs my son." the Lord proclaimed, "build a defense like nothing the league has seen since the old days of the Baltimore Ravens. Show them that in the day of offensive power houses, that it will be the defense that once again rises, and shows that on Sundays, offenses sell tickets, but defenses win CHAMPIONSHIPS."

"Let those that pine for a franchise qb suffer with Alex Smith, when they should be praising the fact that I didn't send Tebow instead. Tell them to follow the GREAT Bob Sutton to Lombardi glory. For it shall be written, as I have said so."

Pasta Little Brioni · 10-16-2013, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Helps having a 2-14 schedule playing teams that are struggling just like Jacksonville.

Dumb post is dumb

Titty Meat · 10-16-2013, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I'm not anxious for it, but I can't shake the feeling that it's going to happen. We're conditioned to feel that way as Chiefs fans.

Well everyone except Halfcan, he thinks we're going to win the ****ing Super Bowl.

Eh there's no reason to think this team will do much if the offense plays like it did against the Raiders.

Psyko Tek · 10-16-2013, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Helps having a 2-14 schedule playing teams that are struggling just like Jacksonville.

urine idiot

10-16-2013, 08:27 PM
KcMizzou Supporter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Parkville MO Casino cash: $10005170	Chiefs’ defense isn’t only fueling undefeated start, it could be record-breaking Chiefs’ defense isn’t only fueling undefeated start, it could be record-breaking By SAM MELLINGER The Kansas City Star Look, there are a dozen reasons this whole thing will be as outdated as a flip-phone soon enough, but while the numbers line up we might as well say it out loud: This Chiefs defense has a chance to go down as one of the best in recent NFL memory. Honest. Now, we’re all adults here. We all know the Chiefs’ first six opponents included the Jaguars and maybe two playoff teams (the Titans and someone from the awful NFC East) while their next 10 opponents include five currently in the top five in offense (starting this week against the Texans, and peaking with two games against the Broncos). So what the Chiefs are doing at the moment is a bit like leading a marathon at mile six, but, well, after years of throwing up in the sponsors’ tent by this point, it’s worth taking a moment to recognize that this defense isn’t just fueling a 6-0 start, it’s playing at a historic pace. On Wednesday, Tamba Hali was announced as the AFC’s defensive player of the week. That means that, between Hali and fellow linebacker Justin Houston, the Chiefs have won the award three of a possible six times. And Houston was chosen defensive player of the month for September. The turnaround is nothing short of astonishing, the combination of a strengthened secondary and a major shift in philosophy toward organized chaos. Hali often talks of a specific change: from poring over film a year ago for better understanding of opponents, to a new aggression that forces offenses to do the reacting. The best way to illustrate the change might be to point out that the defense has given up seven touchdowns and five field goals while scoring four touchdowns of their own and forcing turnovers that gave the offense the ball in plus-territory 11 other times. Think of it like this: Opponents have been 50 percent more likely to turn the ball over than to manage even a field goal against the Chiefs, regardless of field position. But the easiest place to start — the place most people like to start — is with the pass rush. The Chiefs lead the NFL with 31 sacks, which is not only more than they had all of last year, but on a pace (82.7) to eclipse the 1984 Bears’ NFL record of 72. Ten different Chiefs have sacked the quarterback compared to six all of last year. Houston, Hali and Dontari Poe form perhaps the best trio in the NFL: Houston leads the league in sacks, Hali is fourth, and only one interior lineman has more sacks than Poe. Any talk about the Chiefs’ success to this point includes the caveat of their remarkably easy schedule, but it’s also true that of their six opponents, four have scored their fewest points of the season against the Chiefs. The exceptions are the Giants (seven against Kansas City) and Titans (17). The Eagles and Cowboys each rank in the league’s top five in points scored and were a combined 25 points under their season averages against the Chiefs. The statistical case is overwhelming. The Chiefs are giving up just 10.8 points per game and are on pace for 48 takeaways. Both marks would be the best since the famous 2000 Ravens, who gave up 10.3 points per game, forced 49 turnovers and won Super Bowl XXXV. NFL people talk all the time about the increased importance of the passing game, right? Well, the Chiefs are giving up a scant 4.4 yards per pass attempt, which would be the lowest average since the 2008 Super Bowl champion Steelers. The Chiefs are allowing opposing quarterbacks a meager 59.8 passer rating, which would be the lowest mark the league has seen since the 2009 Jets defense that dragged Mark Sanchez to the AFC championship game. It’s not all the schedule, either. Football Outsiders has a metric that takes into account strength of opponents. The Chiefs have the best score in the NFL, better than the Seahawks. In fact, the Chiefs are on pace for the best mark in the six-year history of Pro Football Focus’ measurement. Again, the games that will define the Chiefs’ season are still to come. They haven’t faced offenses as good as the ones that remain on the schedule. Thing is, none of those teams has faced a defense that’s playing as well as the Chiefs, either. http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/16...this-team.html
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