Chiefs MEDIA REACTIONS: Chiefs Early Draft Losers on NFLN - Page 33

**Ragged Robin** · 05-10-2014, 10:16 PM

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The Chiefs had pressing needs after a rough free agency, and they still have massive questions on the offensive line and at wide receiver. Dee Ford is a nice long-term gamble, but should start his career as a part-time player. Third-round cornerback Phillip Gaines seems more like a developmental prospect. Fourth-round RB/WR/return/cornerback/football player De'Anthony Thomas is a wild card. This was a draft in which the Chiefs needed some instant-impact players, and it's hard to see them here.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...y-draft-grades

Welp..

**OnTheWarpath15** · 05-12-2014, 04:47 PM

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Pretty sure Kelce had injury concerns also
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Not entirely sure. Makes sense considering he had like 12 catches his entire career leading up to his senior year.

TheGuardian · 05-12-2014, 04:49 PM

Well this thread has an original feel to it.

**SAUTO** · 05-12-2014, 04:51 PM

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Not entirely sure. Makes sense considering he had like 12 catches his entire career leading up to his senior year.

Sorry I'm thinking he just got in a ton of trouble and couldn't play.
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**OnTheWarpath15** · 05-12-2014, 04:57 PM

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Sorry I'm thinking he just got in a ton of trouble and couldn't play.
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Yeah, he and Commings both had character red flags as well.

Kelce missed an entire season due to suspension for weed and booze, dealt with shoulder injuries and IIRC, didn't participate in the combine for a medical reason.

**SAUTO** · 05-12-2014, 05:06 PM

Oh he ****ed up and was injured? Even better.

Dumbasses can party all they want and get away with it, just don't be an idiot. Obviously he's and idiot
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OldSchool · 05-12-2014, 05:39 PM

It seems like Dorsey and co don't care too much about injury history unless it's something really crippling.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 05-12-2014, 06:50 PM

I don't know if we all realize this but... if Travis Kelce can come in and be that big time TE he COULD be, and Bowe plays as he did in the playoffs, along with production from Avery/Jenkins/Hemingway, we are contenders. Don't forget Dressler either, it's not likely by any means but he could be a big time playmaker out of nowhere.

suzzer99 · 05-12-2014, 06:58 PM

All this BPA talk is really annoying. BPA is obviously weighted by position, and to some degree need. No one drafts a fullback in the first round. Hardly ever a guard. And of course you're not going to draft a position you're stacked at.

suzzer99 · 05-12-2014, 06:59 PM

I still want to see someone comment on my idea to move Flowers to safety if Gaines comes on strong. Imagine his hitting ability back there, and he'd be much less likely to be exposed.

Just Passin' By · 05-12-2014, 07:06 PM

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I still want to see someone comment on my idea to move Flowers to safety if Gaines comes on strong. Imagine his hitting ability back there, and he'd be much less likely to be exposed.

This.

Anyone who truly drafted BPA would be unemployed in a hurry.

**Ragged Robin** · 05-12-2014, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

I still want to see someone comment on my idea to move Flowers to safety if Gaines comes on strong. Imagine his hitting ability back there, and he'd be much less likely to be exposed.

He would be super undersized to play FS and I'm not convinced that he'd do better than the rest of the bums on the roster as a field roamer. I don't think he figures into the Chiefs plans after this year because his contract is ridiculous.

keg in kc · 05-12-2014, 07:14 PM

It's more a philosophical difference than a literal one. BPA basically means drafting better athletes, guys with a higher ceiling but not necessarily quick or immediate development as opposed to picks perceived as being safer, with a higher floor and more instant gratification, but not necessarily the greatest long-term potential. Positional need is obviously tied to both. There's more risk with BPA, and while they can contribute immediately it's not a given. One the flipside, sometimes safer picks can exceed expectations. Or bust.

chiefzilla1501 · 05-12-2014, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

All this BPA talk is really annoying. BPA is obviously weighted by position, and to some degree need. No one drafts a fullback in the first round. Hardly ever a guard. And of course you're not going to draft a position you're stacked at.

The Chiefs drafted at a position they were stacked at (Ford). The Saints did too when they drafted Will Smith despite having two 10+ sack guys in Darren Howard and Charles Grant. The Giants did it twice... first time drafting Kiwanuka when they had Osi and Strahan. Second time drafting Tuck when they had Kiwanuka, Osi, and Strahan.

-King- · 05-12-2014, 07:28 PM

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He would be super undersized to play FS and I'm not convinced that he'd do better than the rest of the bums on the roster as a field roamer. I don't think he figures into the Chiefs plans after this year because his contract is ridiculous.

You don't have to be big to play safety.
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**DeezNutz** · 05-12-2014, 08:45 PM

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All this BPA talk is really annoying. BPA is obviously weighted by position, and to some degree need. No one drafts a fullback in the first round. Hardly ever a guard. And of course you're not going to draft a position you're stacked at.

1. Because they would never be BPA.
2. That's short-sighted thinking on the part of teams, if and when true.

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