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**Donger** · 03-21-2005, 10:40 AM

Death of airline passenger subdued by other passengers probed

NEW YORK (AP) -- Prosecutors are investigating the death of a man who was subdued by several fellow airline passengers after he became disruptive on a New York-bound flight, a spokesman said Sunday.

William Lee was pronounced dead late Friday after he was removed from the American Airlines flight at Kennedy International Airport. The cause of death had not yet been determined and was under investigation.

Lee, 48, of New York, stood up in his seat on American's Flight 4 from Los Angeles and "loudly demanded another beer," airline spokesman Tim Smith said.

Flight attendants asked him to wait until they reached his row, Smith said, but the man "got very, very belligerent and loud and disruptive and was told he would not be served any more alcohol."

The purser tried to calm him down, but he pushed her aside to get to the aisle, the spokesman said.

Seven other male passengers restrained Lee, who was a large man, and they and the flight crew put flexible handcuffs on him and put him back in his seat, Smith said.

Lee got out of his seat again and the seven passengers held him on his back on the galley floor until the plane landed, Smith said. He said he had heard reports the men were members of a rugby team but said he couldn't yet confirm that.

After the landing, Port Authority police boarded the plane and administered CPR to Lee, who "was in some kind of distress," Smith said.

Stinger · 03-21-2005, 10:42 AM

Wasn't this on an episode of CSI?

**Rain Man** · 03-21-2005, 10:43 AM

Good. One less jerk in the world. I hope the rugby players get a free trip or something.

beavis · 03-21-2005, 10:45 AM

All this could have been averted if they had just given dude his beer.

WilliamTheIrish · 03-21-2005, 10:46 AM

link?

**Donger** · 03-21-2005, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

link?

Sorry: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/21/pas....ap/index.html

**BigRedChief** · 03-21-2005, 10:57 AM

Hey, being rude and a asshole to flight attendants doesn't warrant death.

But maybe thats just me.

**Lzen** · 03-21-2005, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Hey, being rude and a asshole to flight attendants doesn't warrant death.

But maybe thats just me.

Oh come on. Where in the article does it suggest they did something to try to cause death? Sounds like they were just subdueing some drunk asshole and he may have had a heart attack.

WilliamTheIrish · 03-21-2005, 11:01 AM

Sounds like the big fella had a big infarct.

**Rain Man** · 03-21-2005, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Hey, being rude and a asshole to flight attendants doesn't warrant death.

But maybe thats just me.

I run a tight ship.

Seriously, it sounds like the guy had about 18 chances to get his act together. He started the problem, he started the physical stuff, he got taken down by a bunch of responsible citizens, he got handcuffed, and then he got up and tried to do it again, and the responsible citizens were forced to act again. It sounds to me like he was responsible for every decision that ultimately ended up in his death.

trndobrd · 03-21-2005, 11:10 AM

They should have helped him exit the plane, over Nevada.

**Iowanian** · 03-21-2005, 11:15 AM

I think the Airlines should distribute Tazers, powerful enough to makethe mother the person zapped, 1000 miles away, pee her pants.......with headphones and cheap peanuts.

trndobrd · 03-21-2005, 11:17 AM

Maybe they should have given him 10 more beers. Then locked all the toilets.

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