****OFFICIAL 2013 NASCAR THREAD****

[In58men]

Next Race: Michigan 10:00 am est.


Completed Races:

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2/16 Daytona International Speedway (Shootout)
Winner: Kevin Harvick

2/21 Daytona International Speedway (Duel)
1st Duel: Kevin Harvick
2nd Duel: Kyle Busch


2/24 Daytona 500
Winner: Jimmie Johnson

3/3 Phoenix International Raceway
Pole: Mark Martin
Winner: Carl Edwards

3/10 Las Vegas Motor Speedway:
Pole: Brad Keselowski
Winner: Matt Kenseth

3/17 Bristol Motor Speedway
Winner: Kasey Kahne

3/24 Auto Club Speedway
Winner: Kyle Busch

4/7 Martinsville Speedway
Winner: Jimmie Johnson

4/13 Texas Motor Speedway
Winner: Kyle Busch

4/21 Kansas Speedway
Winner Matt Kenseth

4/27 Richmond International
Winner Kevin Harvick

5/5 Talladega Speedway
Winner: David Ragan

5/11 Darlington Raceway
Winner: Matt Kenseth

5/18 NASCAR Sprint All-Star Race
Winner: Jimmie Johnson

5/26 Charlotte Motor Speedway
Winner: Kevin Harvick

6/2 Dover International Speedway
Winner: Tony Stewart

6/9 Pocono Raceway
Winner: Jimmie Johnson

6/16 Michigan International Speedway
Winner: Greg Biffle

6/23 Sonoma
Winner: Martin Truex Jr

Remaining 2013 Schedule:

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7/6 Daytona International Speedway
(2012 Winner Tony Stewart)

7/14 New Hampshire Motor Speedway
(2012 Winner Kasey Kahne)

7/28 Indianapolis Motor Speedway
(2012 Winner Jimmie Johnson)

8/4 Pocono Raceway
(2012 Winner Jeff Gordon)

8/11 Watkins Glen International
(2012 Winner Marcos Ambrose)

8/18 Michigan International Speedway
(2012 Winner Greg Biffle)

8/24 Bristol Motor Speedway
(2012 Winner Denny Hamlin)

9/1 Atlanta Motor Speedway
(2012 Winner Denny Hamlin)

9/7 Richmond International Raceway
(2012 Winner Clint Bowyer)

9/15 Chicagoland Speedway
(2012 Winner Brad Keselowski)

9/22 New Hampshire Motor Speedway
(2012 Winner Denny Hamlin)

9/29 Dover International Speedway
(2012 Winner Denny Hamlin)

10/6 Kansas Speedway
(2012 Winner Matt Kenseth)

10/12 Charlotte Motor Speedway
(2012 Winner Clint Bowyer)

10/20 Talladega Superspeedway
(2012 Winner Matt Kenseth)

10/27 Martinsville Speedway
(2012 Winner Jimmie Johnson)

11/3 Texas Motor Speedway
(2012 Winner Jimmie Johnson)

11/10 Phoenix International Raceway
(2012 Winner Kevin Harvick)

11/17 Homestead-Miami Speedway
(2012 Winner Jeff Gordon)
(2012 Sprint Cup Champion Brad Keselowski)

Current Standings

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UPDATED 6/23/13
1 Jimmie Johnson 573 --- $5,033,219 3 1 7 10
2 Carl Edwards 548 -25 $2,807,944 1 1 6 9
3 Clint Bowyer 528 -45 $2,537,958 0 0 5 9
4 Kevin Harvick 510 -63 $3,044,272 2 0 4 8
5 Matt Kenseth 481 -92 $3,180,250 3 1 3 8
6 Greg Biffle 479 -94 $2,484,024 1 0 3 7
7 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 479 -94 $2,952,308 0 0 4 9
8 Kyle Busch 461 -112 $3,270,882 2 2 7 9
9 Brad Keselowski 454 -119 $3,019,639 0 0 5 8
10 Martin Truex Jr. 453 -120 $2,455,524 1 1 4 7
11 Kasey Kahne 445 -128 $2,496,418 1 0 5 7
12 Paul Menard 445 -128 $2,151,628 0 0 0 4
13 Jeff Gordon 441 -132 $2,519,803 0 0 4 5
14 Joey Logano 439 -134 $2,575,839 0 0 4 7
15 Tony Stewart 433 -140 $2,635,999 1 0 3 5
16 Aric Almirola 428 -145 $2,306,306 0 0 0 4
17 Kurt Busch 425 -148 $2,261,198 0 0 4 6
18 Ryan Newman 418 -155 $2,506,228 0 0 2 7
19 Ricky Stenhouse Jr. 406 -167 $2,435,083 0 0 0 0
20 Jeff Burton 403 -170 $1,805,618 0 0 1 3
21 Jamie McMurray 395 -178 $2,173,188 0 1 0 3
22 Marcos Ambrose 380 -193 $2,125,993 0 0 0 3
23 Juan Pablo Montoya 371 -202 $2,212,369 0 0 2 3
24 Casey Mears 333 -240 $1,844,675 0 0 0 0
25 Denny Hamlin 320 -253 $1,860,744 0 2 3 4
26 Mark Martin 314 -259 $2,155,479 0 1 1 4
27 Danica Patrick 292 -281 $1,677,994 0 1 0 1
28 David Gilliland 281 -292 $1,780,334 0 0 1 1
29 David Ragan 276 -297 $2,073,341 1 0 1 1
30 Bobby Labonte 257 -316 $1,773,044 0 0 0 0
31 Dave Blaney 245 -328 $1,643,378 0 0 0 0
32 David Reutimann 232 -341 $1,609,345 0 0 0 0
33 David Stremme 217 -356 $1,278,195 0 0 0 0
34 J.J. Yeley 215 -358 $1,542,563 0 0 0 1
35 Travis Kvapil 205 -368 $1,672,489 0 0 0 0
36 AJ Allmendinger 158 -415 $658,310 0 0 0 0
37 Michael McDowell 83 -490 $1,232,096 0 0 0 1
38 Timmy Hill 80 -493 $686,326 0 0 0 0
39 Scott Speed 75 -498 $807,494 0 0 0 1
40 Michael Waltrip 63 -510 $465,184 0 0 1 1
41 Terry Labonte 52 -521 $523,777 0 0 0 0
42 Ken Schrader 39 -534 $321,437 0 0 0 0
43 Boris Said 26 -547 $0 0 0 0 0
44 Scott Riggs 10 -563 $314,980 0 0 0 0
45 Victor Gonzalez Jr. 7 -566 $0 0 0 0 0
46 Alex Kennedy 4 -569 $0 0 0 0 0
46 Brian Keselowski 4 -569 $88,990 0 0 0 0
48 Jacques Villeneuve 3 -570 $0 0 0 0 0
49 Jason Leffler 1 -572 $47,550 0 0 0 0

Richmond CHAMPION: CARL EDWARDS!!!!!







Atta boy!!!!!! Now go get that trophy you sexy beast

[CaliforniaChief]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Pit: Omaha Omaha

Yeah, this.

But seriously, just come up with an obscure question that you wouldn't normally ask a driver and even if its sort of obvious, it won't be damnable.

I'm a Newman fan so obviously I'm happy he's in the Chase and do feel like he deserved that spot by driving to the front, but it's too bad it had to go down like this.

[ptlyon]

"Hey ryan, ever seen my dick?"

Spinout.

[Mav]

Gaining a point, or letting your teammate lead a lap?

That's one thing. Purposely spinning out, and then TRYING TO GET IT TO HAPPEN AGAIN just a few laps later?

That's blatant bullshit......

[kstater]

http://racing.ap.org/article/did-pen...t-logano-chase
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Penske Racing may have cut a deal with Front Row Motorsports in the closing laps at Richmond for track position to help get Joey Logano in the Chase for the Sprint Cup championship.

In radio communications reviewed Wednesday by The Associated Press for Front Row driver David Gilliland, his spotter informs the team of a request to let Logano pass him in the final laps of Saturday night's race.

Logano was trying to claim a spot in the 12-driver Chase field. Both Penske and Front Row are Ford teams and thus considered partners.

A voice on the radio, believed to be crew chief Frank Kerr, asks who the request is coming from. The spotter replies: "We've got the big dog and all his cronies."

Kerr then says: "Travis knows what I've been asking for," an apparent reference to Penske Racing competition director Travis Geisler.

Logano passed Gilliland on a restart and finished 22nd, one spot ahead of Gilliland and good enough for a berth in the Chase field.

"Good job, good job, man," the spotter says after the race. "Hopefully we'll get something out of that."

Statistics analyzed by AP also show Gilliland's lap times dropped off by almost 1 second from the times he was running prior to the radio communication.

NASCAR has already punished Michael Waltrip Racing for manipulating the end of Saturday night's race at Richmond.

Ryan Newman was on his way to a victory that would have given him the final spot in the Chase championship field. But Clint Bowyer spun to bring out a caution, setting in motion a chain of events that cost Newman the win and the Chase berth, cost Jeff Gordon a Chase berth and put Martin Truex Jr. and Logano in the final two spots.

NASCAR, concluding that MWR had manipulated the outcome of the race, put Newman in the Chase and bumped Truex. It also fined MWR $300,000 and suspended general manager Ty Norris indefinitely, Bowyer, Truex and Brian Vickers were docked 50 points each, and their crew chiefs were placed on probation through the end of the year.

Bowyer has denied the spin was deliberate. NASCAR could only prove one action — radio communication between Norris and Vickers in which a confused Vickers was told to pit as the field went green with three laps to go. The call was an effort to give Logano position on the track to pass Gordon in the standings and knock Gordon out of the Chase so that Truex could gain a Chase wild-card berth.

Now there may be more for NASCAR to look at ahead of Sunday's race at Chicagoland — the first Chase race.

Follow JENNA FRYER on Twitter @JennaFryer

[BourbonMan]

There's a big difference in letting somebody pass you during the green flag and spinning out on purpose and almost causing a wreck to bring out a caution so somebody doesn't win.

[CaliforniaChief]

However it goes down, if a driver tanks it to benefit another and there's proof of an arrangement, that is so wrong IMO. And I bet Jeff Gordon still gets in over Logano.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by BourbonMan

There's a big difference in letting somebody pass you during the green flag and spinning out on purpose and almost causing a wreck to bring out a caution so somebody doesn't win.

Not in my book....it's still "fixing the race" no matter how you look at it.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Old Dog

Exactly. You would have thought they could have pre-planned something a touch more inconspicuous.

Seemed like the crew chief felt like being cute. Stupid to not know that everyone would hear it and put it together quickly.

Originally Posted by BourbonMan

There's a big difference in letting somebody pass you during the green flag and spinning out on purpose and almost causing a wreck to bring out a caution so somebody doesn't win.

I think there is a difference, but if you are NASCAR, if you have proof of the foul, you have to punish it. What is acceptable to drivers under the "code" is one thing, but if you are the governing body and you have proof, you have to act.

[GloryDayz]

I'm a Gordon fan and I'm not sure I want this because it'll seem like it was to get him in when it obviously isn't. That being said, this is all bullshit and further proof that NASCAR has totally ****ed things up by promoting "teams" (or at least not banning them), and is getting closer and closer to being the WWE.

And even if they hand out another fine, it just means the drivers will go to code, hand signals, winks, or whatever else needs to happen to serve what the teams see as the higher cause.

**** it, ban teams... I'm pretty ****ing busy and don't catch a lot of races, all this just makes me less concerned to bother watching any of them.

[Mav]

Come on.

Teams have bought places in races. Meaning, if a car qualifies and another doesn't, people have paid the qualifying team for their spot in the race.

Teammates during the season, have let their teammates pass them to lead laps to get "bonus" points all the time.

If Penske paid Front Row or made a deal to help with equipment in the future, seeing as they are both Ford, then who cares.

This is so different than spinning out on purpose, and then encouraging it again.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Come on.

Teams have bought places in races. Meaning, if a car qualifies and another doesn't, people have paid the qualifying team for their spot in the race.

Teammates during the season, have let their teammates pass them to lead laps to get "bonus" points all the time.

If Penske paid Front Row or made a deal to help with equipment in the future, seeing as they are both Ford, then who cares.

This is so different than spinning out on purpose, and then encouraging it again.

Not disagreeing, I just think each racer should want to beat the other 42 equally. I'm not lost on the concept, or how it help in some ways, but I want hard racing every lap. Teams or no teams, at the super speedways they'll create beneficial alliances for drafting. That's enough brotherly love IMO. After that, race the shit out of the first guy in front of you and drive scared if the guy behind you can touch you.

THAT'S why I want point to be awarded for each lap, the sum of the point being just short of what can be earned for the win. That way you have drivers racing to lead each lap instead of "keeping the fenders on and staying out of trouble until the last 10-15 laps." I don't like that at all.

Other than wearing out hardware, burning fuel, setting up other strategies (that can be foiled on a dime), and giving folks in the crowd time to take long craps, the middle 75% of laps mean little. Not nothing, but little..

[Old Dog]

Gordon is being added to the Chase as the 13th driver....

[Old Dog]

From ESPN:
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup...13th-car-chase

JOLIET, Ill. -- Jeff Gordon has been added to the Chase for the Sprint Cup field by NASCAR chairman Brian France as a result of the "unfair" tactics by other teams that knocked him out late in the regular season finale at Richmond.

The Chase, usually consisting of 12 drivers, will now consist of 13 eligible to win the championship.

"There were too many things that altered the event and gave an unfair disadvantage to Jeff and his team, who would have qualified," France said Friday at Chicagoland Speedway, the site of first race of the Chase.

"I have the authority to do that. We will do that."

Gordon was in place to grab the 10th spot in the standings and advance to the Chase before a spin by Clint Bowyer with seven laps left caused a caution that also took Ryan Newman out of position to win and qualify for the postseason.

Newman was added to the Chase on Monday in place of Bowyer's teammate Martin Truex Jr. because of the spinout.

NASCAR also put Front Row Motorsports and Penske Racing on probation Friday after radio chatter appeared the teams colluded to allow Penske's Joey Logano past Front Row's David Gilliland to earn points that made him the 10th-place driver in points.

[CaliforniaChief]

I agree with Gordon being in if Newman is in. But I wouldn't have added another spot, I'd have kicked Bowyer to the curb. Either way, I'm sure Bowyer's going to pay his price soon enough.

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by Old Dog

From ESPN:
http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup...13th-car-chase

JOLIET, Ill. -- Jeff Gordon has been added to the Chase for the Sprint Cup field by NASCAR chairman Brian France as a result of the "unfair" tactics by other teams that knocked him out late in the regular season finale at Richmond.

The Chase, usually consisting of 12 drivers, will now consist of 13 eligible to win the championship.

"There were too many things that altered the event and gave an unfair disadvantage to Jeff and his team, who would have qualified," France said Friday at Chicagoland Speedway, the site of first race of the Chase.

"I have the authority to do that. We will do that."

Gordon was in place to grab the 10th spot in the standings and advance to the Chase before a spin by Clint Bowyer with seven laps left caused a caution that also took Ryan Newman out of position to win and qualify for the postseason.

Newman was added to the Chase on Monday in place of Bowyer's teammate Martin Truex Jr. because of the spinout.

NASCAR also put Front Row Motorsports and Penske Racing on probation Friday after radio chatter appeared the teams colluded to allow Penske's Joey Logano past Front Row's David Gilliland to earn points that made him the 10th-place driver in points.

As a Gordon fan, Ive got mixed emotions about it. It was certainly disappointing leaving the race Saturday night having missed by 1pt. Do I feel he got screwed on the deal, yes. But he never should have been in that situation to begin with. 5 DNF's on the year will do that...

I guess I'm glad they made it right. I dont think given his lack of real competitiveness over the last couple of years, I dont see him winning the chase, he is #13 on Friday the 13th...that cant be the best of omens.