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keg in kc · 12:12 PM

Don't believe there's a dedicated thread, and since they're starting to release information now, I figure it's time for one.

Huffmeister · 09-30-2011, 12:17 PM

Awesome, thanks for the info!

Was there any point to the space combat? I mean, did you have to do it every time you moved between planets? Did you get anything out of it, like credits*, loot, crafting materials, etc?

* And I assume they're using credits as the currency?

keg in kc · 09-30-2011, 12:29 PM

Well, since they're in testing things could change, but when I was in, space combat was completely optional. You don't ever get jumped between planets like in KOTOR (god I hated that) or get forced to do the mini-game to get somewhere like in Jade Empire (god I really, really hated that).

The way it works (or rather worked) is that there's a terminal on your bridge near the galactic map that gives you space mission quests, which could be repeated daily when I played, for space commendations. As you advanced through the missions you got a new set of quests (I only completed the first uest, I was not able to complete the 2nd and 3rd space missions, which were both required to finish the 2nd daily quest). You could also just run the missions without (or after) the daily quest, but you didn't get many commendations that way. In my build you used those commendations to purchase ship upgrades. The ship right when you start with has blasters and missiles. You can add shields, or add hp to the ship, or improve the blasters and missiles, or carry more missiles, etc. Now I'm told you can actually purchase upgrades with credits, although i can't say for sure if that's true.

There were also bonus missions, objectives you could complete beyond the requirements you had to finish the mission, but I think most of those would require an upgraded ship to complete, meaning the way it was in my build, you probably wouldn't really be able to wipe out bonus objectives until your character was in his 40s or 50 (because in my build, upgrades had level requirements).

Basically the only reason to run space missions was for a change of pace from the ground game (and it was great for that...) or to earn commendations to improve your ship in space combat missions. It wasn't in any way required, at least not when I tested.

Pants · 09-30-2011, 12:40 PM

So how did they balance the combat? You obviously can't die in space. Did they just take you out of it saying you sustained too much damage and had to retreat to get it repaired (thus failing the mission)?

keg in kc · 09-30-2011, 12:45 PM

No, you blew the **** up.

Beta review I just watched. Matches my own impression, and he's playing the new build:

keg in kc · 09-30-2011, 01:09 PM

PC Gamer has a pretty lengthy preview up: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/09/30/th...ublic-preview/

keg in kc · 09-30-2011, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Reid

A follow-up to this as there have been, understandably, a few more questions:

Does receiving these emails have anything at all to do with my Game Testing status? As I received the emails, am I on the list to receive an invite now?

I'm afraid not. These emails were sent in error to a portion of our mailing list, and do not relate to selection for Game Testing.

Am I now not eligible for selection for Game Testing?

Everyone who received the emails - assuming they are not already in Game Testing, and are already signed up to test - is still eligible for selection in the future. We're continuing to invite more testers and our next Beta Testing Weekend is being planned right now.

Who were supposed to get these emails, anyway?

A small group of game testers as part of ongoing market research.

How come I got an invite and my [friend/significant other/guild mate] didn't?

While a lot of emails were sent in error, they didn't hit our entire mailing list, which means a lot of people wouldn't get them.

As I got this email - does this now mean any eventual Game Testing invite is now going to hit my inbox?

This email was actually sent from a different email address than the one used by our Game Testing invites. To ensure you see a future email invite, make sure to add no-reply@bioware.swtor.com to your 'safe senders' list. As always, if you believe you have been invited to Game Testing, you can login at swtor.com/tester and check your status.

Stephen Reid | Senior Online Community Manager

Maybe that means I actually am eligible to test again.

keg in kc · 10-01-2011, 11:05 AM

Huttball video just for you Pants. Total Biscuit trying to play as a Jedi Sentinel.

Pants · 10-01-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Huttball video just for you Pants. Total Biscuit trying to play as a Jedi Sentinel.

That was awesome. Don't know why he said he was a Guardian in the beginning, Guardians don't dual-wield do they?

keg in kc · 10-01-2011, 03:16 PM

Yeah, he thought he was on a tank rather than melee dps for whatever reason, at least at the start.

And you're right, guardians can spec for DPS, but even then they only have 1 saber.

Pants · 10-01-2011, 03:19 PM

I really liked the little touches BioWare put into that Huttball. You can hear a Zerca Corp advertisement on the PA system at one time. SWEET!

Also, dude kept walking into the fire over and over and over again.

keg in kc · 10-01-2011, 03:29 PM

I'm a little concerned that the repetition of the announcer will get grating in time. It looks fun, though, and should be even more so when people start figuring out how to play it (i.e. running plays and actually passing the ball around).

Pants · 10-01-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'm a little concerned that the repetition of the announcer will get grating in time. It looks fun, though, and should be even more so when people start figuring out how to play it (i.e. running plays and actually passing the ball around).

Yeah, that was just pretty much straight CTF action the way they played it. A good team will be able to roll without even getting too many kills. And I think like anything else, you'll be able to tune the announcer out.

"Someone kill somebody already!"

keg in kc · 10-01-2011, 04:04 PM

I haven't watched the video yet, but there's a huttball leak out recently that shows a team getting a 6-0 blow-out. Apparently there's a mercy rule.

Pants · 10-01-2011, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I haven't watched the video yet, but there's a huttball leak out recently that shows a team getting a 6-0 blow-out. Apparently there's a mercy rule.

I could see good teams stopping at 5 and just using the clock to get a bunch of kills.

keg in kc · 10-01-2011, 04:27 PM

Might not be worth it if you get more valor out of quick wins.

Even as somebody who has virtually zero interest in PvP, and probably won't do it very often, I'm curious to see some skilled PvPers play some TOR, just to see how the systems really work. I'm accustomed to WoW-style burst PvP, instead of skill and group based pvp where healing and tanking actually have some value.

Although there's currently a lot of bitching about snipers and gunslingers in PvP, and how cover doesn't work for PvP because it makes you stationary, and PvP is all about mobility. So PvPers want cover taken completely out of the game (which would piss me the **** off, I loved the cover system in PvE, made the classes feel so unique).

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09-30-2011, 12:17 PM	#916
Huffmeister Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $9904277	Awesome, thanks for the info! Was there any point to the space combat? I mean, did you have to do it every time you moved between planets? Did you get anything out of it, like credits, loot, crafting materials, etc? And I assume they're using credits as the currency?
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09-30-2011, 12:29 PM	#917
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Well, since they're in testing things could change, but when I was in, space combat was completely optional. You don't ever get jumped between planets like in KOTOR (god I hated that) or get forced to do the mini-game to get somewhere like in Jade Empire (god I really, really hated that). The way it works (or rather worked) is that there's a terminal on your bridge near the galactic map that gives you space mission quests, which could be repeated daily when I played, for space commendations. As you advanced through the missions you got a new set of quests (I only completed the first uest, I was not able to complete the 2nd and 3rd space missions, which were both required to finish the 2nd daily quest). You could also just run the missions without (or after) the daily quest, but you didn't get many commendations that way. In my build you used those commendations to purchase ship upgrades. The ship right when you start with has blasters and missiles. You can add shields, or add hp to the ship, or improve the blasters and missiles, or carry more missiles, etc. Now I'm told you can actually purchase upgrades with credits, although i can't say for sure if that's true. There were also bonus missions, objectives you could complete beyond the requirements you had to finish the mission, but I think most of those would require an upgraded ship to complete, meaning the way it was in my build, you probably wouldn't really be able to wipe out bonus objectives until your character was in his 40s or 50 (because in my build, upgrades had level requirements). Basically the only reason to run space missions was for a change of pace from the ground game (and it was great for that...) or to earn commendations to improve your ship in space combat missions. It wasn't in any way required, at least not when I tested.
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09-30-2011, 12:40 PM	#918
Pants Time Keeps On Slipping Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $5719900	So how did they balance the combat? You obviously can't die in space. Did they just take you out of it saying you sustained too much damage and had to retreat to get it repaired (thus failing the mission)? __________________ "Turn the channel to 26!"
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09-30-2011, 12:45 PM	#919
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	No, you blew the **** up. Beta review I just watched. Matches my own impression, and he's playing the new build:
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09-30-2011, 01:09 PM	#920
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	PC Gamer has a pretty lengthy preview up: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/09/30/th...ublic-preview/
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10-01-2011, 11:05 AM	#922
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Huttball video just for you Pants. Total Biscuit trying to play as a Jedi Sentinel.
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10-01-2011, 03:16 PM	#924
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Yeah, he thought he was on a tank rather than melee dps for whatever reason, at least at the start. And you're right, guardians can spec for DPS, but even then they only have 1 saber.
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10-01-2011, 03:19 PM	#925
Pants Time Keeps On Slipping Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $5719900	I really liked the little touches BioWare put into that Huttball. You can hear a Zerca Corp advertisement on the PA system at one time. SWEET! Also, dude kept walking into the fire over and over and over again. __________________ "Turn the channel to 26!"
Posts: 27,294

10-01-2011, 03:29 PM	#926
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I'm a little concerned that the repetition of the announcer will get grating in time. It looks fun, though, and should be even more so when people start figuring out how to play it (i.e. running plays and actually passing the ball around).
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10-01-2011, 04:04 PM	#928
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I haven't watched the video yet, but there's a huttball leak out recently that shows a team getting a 6-0 blow-out. Apparently there's a mercy rule.
Posts: 58,682

10-01-2011, 04:27 PM	#930
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Might not be worth it if you get more valor out of quick wins. Even as somebody who has virtually zero interest in PvP, and probably won't do it very often, I'm curious to see some skilled PvPers play some TOR, just to see how the systems really work. I'm accustomed to WoW-style burst PvP, instead of skill and group based pvp where healing and tanking actually have some value. Although there's currently a lot of bitching about snipers and gunslingers in PvP, and how cover doesn't work for PvP because it makes you stationary, and PvP is all about mobility. So PvPers want cover taken completely out of the game (which would piss me the **** off, I loved the cover system in PvE, made the classes feel so unique).
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