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Old 06-06-2018, 05:40 PM  
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Will the chiefs draft a player in the supplemental draft?

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2018/06/...nis-alexander/

Adonis Alexander has been declared academically ineligible for the 2018 college season. Could the Chiefs be looking to add him in the supplemental draft?

Life tends to act in funny ways, sometimes it will knock you down into the dirt and laugh at you. Other times it will give you a random stroke of luck that you desperately needed.

The Kansas City Chiefs may have had the latter situation fall right into their laps. Adonis Alexander was recently declared academically ineligible for the upcoming 2018 college season.

Alexander, a corner that has been attending Virginia Tech for the past three years released this statement following the news:

There may be some of you wondering about what in the world the NFLís Supplemental Draft is. No one would blame you for this. The supplemental draft has primarily been treated similarly to that family member you never want to introduce to anyone. That is for good reason. The NFL supplemental draft was implemented in 1977. Since then there have only been 43 players selected over the 41 years it has been around. The supplemental draft was made for players that had become ineligible for the college season after the more traditional NFL draft had been held.

The supplemental draft is much more of a bidding war than anything else. There is still a draft order, but teams first enter in names of players that they interest them. After that, they then apply a pick to that player, if two teams apply a pick from the same round then whoever holds the higher pick wins.

It is a bit of an odd process, but one that has paid off for teams in the past. There was a special supplemental draft held in 1984 for college players that had already signed with other leagues. That draft produced some of the best football players ever to play. They were Steve Young, Gary Zimmerman, and Reggie White.

This draft comes with a major catch though. If a team decides to choose a player in the supplemental draft, they will lose that corresponding pick the next season. For example, if Kansas City were to choose Alexander in the third-round of the draft they would lose their third-round pick in the 2019 draft. This has led to the majority of players being chosen in the later rounds of the draft. Josh Gordon is the most recent high round pick, having been chosen in the second round of the 2012 draft by the Clevland Browns.

This leaves the Chiefs in a unique position. Kansas City is very thin at the cornerback position, so having a talented corner possibly drop into their laps could be that stroke of luck needed to help solidify the position. Especially when the outlook for the position going past 2018 is bleak at the moment. The real question is whether Alexander is even worth drafting. I decided to look at the few games on draftbreakdown to see if there was any real reason to be excited about him.

First, letís start off with the good things that Alexander showed in his game film:

This was the very first thing that stood out to me about Alexander. He has no fear when it comes to getting physical, something that some fans have been critical about with recent Chiefs corners.

What do you college watchers/draftniks think of this kid?
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:20 AM   #16
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:24 AM   #17
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CB Sam Beal (W. Michigan) interest anyone?

https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2018/...emental-draft/

Sounds awful tempting to me, much more so than the other 2 DBs entering the supplemental draft.

I'd throw a 3rd out there for this guy, given we have two 2nds but no 4th. just dont see a 5th getting it done here.
I'd throw a 2nd out there for him since we have two.
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:39 AM   #18
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:42 AM   #19
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CB Sam Beal (W. Michigan) interest anyone?

https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2018/...emental-draft/

Sounds awful tempting to me, much more so than the other 2 DBs entering the supplemental draft.

I'd throw a 3rd out there for this guy, given we have two 2nds but no 4th. just dont see a 5th getting it done here.
depends how confident the Chiefs are on the development of Kpass and Speaks.

If they can transition smoothly from 2nd string to 1st string at a high level then I'd go for it. If not, hold onto the picks to select a passrusher in the 2019 draft.
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Old 06-07-2018, 12:11 PM   #20
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How does the contract work for a supplemental draft player? Similar to UDFA? Or slot them at the same range as a regularly drafted player?

Just wondering what control you have over a player taken in the SD. If its limited, might be too risky to spend a high pick.
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Old 06-07-2018, 12:12 PM   #21
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depends how confident the Chiefs are on the development of Kpass and Speaks.

If they can transition smoothly from 2nd string to 1st string at a high level then I'd go for it. If not, hold onto the picks to select a passrusher in the 2019 draft.
Between Houston, Ford, Speaks and Kpassagnon, I feel good about our outside passrushers moving forward. I know Ford is in his last year of contract.

I would look to use a high pick to draft a Dline (another Chris Jones if possible) to replace Allen Bailey before adding another OLB.

This defense is a good 3-4 end and a CB away from being a top 10 unit and more.

I still don't get how Veach went from trying to sign Lotulelei, Sheldon Richardson, Kyle Fuller, to not doing anything to strengthen those two positions, which are the only potential weaknesses on the defense IMO, not counting injuries.
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Old 06-07-2018, 03:11 PM   #22
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I'd throw a 2nd out there for him since we have two.
i might as well

end up trading peters for beal + nnadi (give or take)
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Old 06-07-2018, 04:57 PM   #23
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I'm not super familiar with how Beal or Alexander have been projected in their draft classes- what I've read is that Beal is considered by some to be a top 5 corner this upcoming season in the NCAA (or at least would have been). Veach seems like an aggressive GM as we've seen a flurry of moves since he's taken over. Also we do have two 2nd round picks but a 2nd round pick is a massive price to pay- the Chiefs next season will have a ton of flexibility to move up early in the draft if they chose to hold onto those picks.

10 corners were taken in the first two rounds in the 2018 NFL draft and the 2017 NFL draft- if you're confident that Beal or Alexander are for sure going to be top 10 talents at the corner position then I feel as if it's a good gamble. I'm not sure if Veach is as worried about the corner position as much as Chiefsplanet is though.

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Old 06-07-2018, 05:02 PM   #24
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This will be an interesting supplemental draft.. You also have S Brandon Bryant (Miss State) who is a fast mo-fo.

I would at least put the fifth on these... would definitely consider the 3rd.

But, of course, we have no idea what other issues these players bring... I assume teams can work them out ahead of the draft?
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Old 06-07-2018, 05:16 PM   #25
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why the **** not? id put in a bid on two corners and wed be lookin pretty good if we got two solid prospects. were in a bit of an odd place with mahomes contract we need to grab talent like this as cheap as possible and make this push.
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Old 06-07-2018, 05:24 PM   #26
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For comparison sake I looked back at what people were saying about Josh Gordon before the supplemental draft:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...-teams-buzzing

A couple things from that article that stand out:

1. 21 teams showed up to Gordon's workout, therefore I'm assuming that Beal and Alexander will have a similar workout in July. From which teams show up will be a good indication of who is interested and how sought after these players are- I'd be surprised if the Chiefs didn't at the very least attend.

2. The article at the end predicts that the Browns would use a 3rd round pick to grab Gordon who was generating quite a bit of intrigue. The Browns ended up using their 2nd round pick to select Gordon. The Browns finished 4-12 during the 2011-12 season so they would have beaten all but two teams assuming everyone "bidded" a 3rd round pick.

It will be easier to understand which round of pick will need to be used in order to have a chance at one of these guys after their workouts.

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Old 06-10-2018, 03:55 PM   #27
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think i'll stick with bidding a 3rd for Beal, pass on the other guys
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Old 06-10-2018, 08:52 PM   #28
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NFL Draft Scout has 2018 supplemental draft qualifier CB Sam Beal ranked #30 among 2019 CBs. Their #30 ranked CB in 2018, Brandon Facyson, went undrafted.

NFL Draft Scout has 2018 supplemental draft qualifier FS Brandon Bryant ranked #4 among 2019 FSs. Their #4 ranked FS in 2018, Tarvarius Moore, was drafted with pick #95.

Adonis Alexander was unranked by NFL Draft Scout.

A third round pick for Bryant would be justified, imo.
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:43 AM   #29
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NFL Draft Scout has 2018 supplemental draft qualifier CB Sam Beal ranked #30 among 2019 CBs. Their #30 ranked CB in 2018, Brandon Facyson, went undrafted.

NFL Draft Scout has 2018 supplemental draft qualifier FS Brandon Bryant ranked #4 among 2019 FSs. Their #4 ranked FS in 2018, Tarvarius Moore, was drafted with pick #95.

Adonis Alexander was unranked by NFL Draft Scout.

A third round pick for Bryant would be justified, imo.
Wouldn't trust that site because there wouldn't be this amount of buzz if Beal was truly the 30th ranked corner in the upcoming draft.

Walter Football has Beal ranked as the #2 corner in the 2019 draft.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2019CB.php
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