Football Expectations and Alex Smith - Page 15

keg in kc · 03-23-2013, 03:29 PM

Just curious. Inspired by the ongoing thread about "Geno fan" expectations, and I'm curious what the thinking is on the other side of the fence. What do people expect out of Alex Smith over the next, let's say, 2-5 years? Specifics, even, yardage and TDs, wins and losses, offensive rankings, etc. This is not a thread with an agenda, I'm genuinely curious what people think, so let's try to keep this from turning into snipe thread #368.

Bump · 03-23-2013, 09:42 PM

I expect Alex Smith to be a slightly better version of Matt Cassel. But that's like saying one type of herpes is better than the other type.

Deberg_1990 · 03-23-2013, 09:48 PM

Think he goes into the Hall as a Niner or Chief?

Tombstone RJ · 03-23-2013, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Think he goes into the Hall as a Niner or Chief?

he's going in as a kcc homey... first ballot, lock it up.

**BossChief** · 03-23-2013, 10:14 PM

Seriously...the expectations should be a playoff game.

Trading what amounts to a mid/late first for a 29 year old quarterback that will make 20 million over the next two years ABSOLUTELY HAS TO LEAD US TO THE PLAYOFFS.

ESPECIALLY after we spent what we did in free agency.

This team has 7 probowl talents on it (Flowers was the next alternate) and a handful of other high quality players to go along with the 7 or 8 quality guys we added in free agency.

You don't trade a first round pick for a quarterback and pay him 10 million per year to get you to 6-10 or 7-9.

**hometeam** · 03-23-2013, 10:16 PM

My expectations are that he is gonna pretty much suck ass.

RunKC · 03-23-2013, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Seriously...the expectations should be a playoff game.

Trading what amounts to a mid/late first for a 29 year old quarterback that will make 20 million over the next two years ABSOLUTELY HAS TO LEAD US TO THE PLAYOFFS.

ESPECIALLY after we spent what we did in free agency.

This team has 7 probowl talents on it (Flowers was the next alternate) and a handful of other high quality players to go along with the 7 or 8 quality guys we added in free agency.

You don't trade a first round pick for a quarterback and pay him 10 million per year to get you to 6-10 or 7-9.

I think that's their plan, but it's probably going to take longer than 1 year.

We gave up a lot more for Trent Green and he wasn't good his first year.

We're the worst team in the NFL right now. It's never easy to get to the playoffs after doing finishing last.

keg in kc · 03-23-2013, 10:27 PM

Trading for Alex Smith is a 'win now' move, and they're having minimal turnover on the roster (looks like Dorsey and Albert may be the only quality starters they lose). That tells us that this is not at all a rebuild situation like 2001 or 2009, that they believe in the players on this roster and that they believe a change in coaching will make the difference. There's no reason to give a year leeway to this group.

Tombstone RJ · 03-23-2013, 10:28 PM

here's what's gonna happen fellas--if kc has a good draft expectations will again be high because, well, a good draft just does that to fans. If kc has a moderate to crappy draft then game over, you all will be freaking out.

Let's pretend kc has a good draft, then comes tc and preseason. This is where kc always wins the SB. You all will be happy as pigs in shit. kc will almost assuredly do well in preseason because, well, they just will.

Let's pretend kc has crappy to partly crappy draft, then tc comes and then preseason. If kc does ok in preseason some of you will be back on board, but the majority of you will reserve judgement or flat out crap fire until the real season.

as for the regular season, as I said in another post, I have no idea what to expect. If kc has a good draft IMHO then kc will have a shot to at the very least win a few more games than last year, but who knows...

keg in kc · 03-23-2013, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Let's pretend kc has a good draft, then comes tc and preseason. This is where kc always wins the SB. You all will be happy as pigs in shit. kc will almost assuredly do well in preseason because, well, they just will.

For somebody with a 2003 join date, it sure doesn't sound like you know this place very well.

splatbass · 03-23-2013, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Seriously...the expectations should be a playoff game.

Trading what amounts to a mid/late first for a 29 year old quarterback that will make 20 million over the next two years ABSOLUTELY HAS TO LEAD US TO THE PLAYOFFS.

ESPECIALLY after we spent what we did in free agency.

This team has 7 probowl talents on it (Flowers was the next alternate) and a handful of other high quality players to go along with the 7 or 8 quality guys we added in free agency.

You don't trade a first round pick for a quarterback and pay him 10 million per year to get you to 6-10 or 7-9.

It is rare to go from 2-14 to the playoffs in one year, no matter who your QB is. You are unrealistic.

**hometeam** · 03-23-2013, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

here's what's gonna happen fellas--if kc has a good draft expectations will again be high because, well, a good draft just does that to fans. If kc has a moderate to crappy draft then game over, you all will be freaking out.

Let's pretend kc has a good draft, then comes tc and preseason. This is where kc always wins the SB. You all will be happy as pigs in shit. kc will almost assuredly do well in preseason because, well, they just will.

Let's pretend kc has crappy to partly crappy draft, then tc comes and then preseason. If kc does ok in preseason some of you will be back on board, but the majority of you will reserve judgement or flat out crap fire until the real season.

as for the regular season, as I said in another post, I have no idea what to expect. If kc has a good draft IMHO then kc will have a shot to at the very least win a few more games than last year, but who knows...

Tombstone RJ · 03-23-2013, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

For somebody with a 2003 join date, it sure doesn't sound like you know this place very well.

hmm, well, maybe it's the kc fans over on the omane that have high expectations and not this place. However, as you've noticed, I've had the pleasure of lurking around and posting on cp for a long time and I do think I know this place pretty well but we shall see...

splatbass · 03-23-2013, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Trading for Alex Smith is a 'win now' move, and they're having minimal turnover on the roster (looks like Dorsey and Albert may be the only quality starters they lose). That tells us that this is not at all a rebuild situation like 2001 or 2009, that they believe in the players on this roster and that they believe a change in coaching will make the difference. There's no reason to give a year leeway to this group.

Of course there is. It is just not reasonable to expect the playoffs the year after 2-14 - especially with almost all the same players.

Tombstone RJ · 03-23-2013, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam

can't see it...

**DeezNutz** · 03-23-2013, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass

It is rare to go from 2-14 to the playoffs in one year, no matter who your QB is. You are unrealistic.

Then the trade is even dumber than some initially suggested.

This regime and Alex Smith get no "evaluation year." Why? The overall record was disproportionately low because the coaching and managements situations were abysmal, and the QB play was ****ing awful.

Allegedly, these issues have been resolved. So now it's time to win or GTFO.

Playoffs.

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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Expectations and Alex Smith Just curious. Inspired by the ongoing thread about "Geno fan" expectations, and I'm curious what the thinking is on the other side of the fence. What do people expect out of Alex Smith over the next, let's say, 2-5 years? Specifics, even, yardage and TDs, wins and losses, offensive rankings, etc. This is not a thread with an agenda, I'm genuinely curious what people think, so let's try to keep this from turning into snipe thread #368.
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03-23-2013, 09:42 PM	#211
Bump YOU take YOUR seat Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $2355105	I expect Alex Smith to be a slightly better version of Matt Cassel. But that's like saying one type of herpes is better than the other type. __________________
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03-23-2013, 09:48 PM	#212
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3944454	Think he goes into the Hall as a Niner or Chief? __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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03-23-2013, 10:14 PM	#214
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1974088	Seriously...the expectations should be a playoff game. Trading what amounts to a mid/late first for a 29 year old quarterback that will make 20 million over the next two years ABSOLUTELY HAS TO LEAD US TO THE PLAYOFFS. ESPECIALLY after we spent what we did in free agency. This team has 7 probowl talents on it (Flowers was the next alternate) and a handful of other high quality players to go along with the 7 or 8 quality guys we added in free agency. You don't trade a first round pick for a quarterback and pay him 10 million per year to get you to 6-10 or 7-9. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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03-23-2013, 10:16 PM	#215
hometeam Supporter Join Date: Jul 2011 Casino cash: $4211956	My expectations are that he is gonna pretty much suck ass.
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03-23-2013, 10:27 PM	#217
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Trading for Alex Smith is a 'win now' move, and they're having minimal turnover on the roster (looks like Dorsey and Albert may be the only quality starters they lose). That tells us that this is not at all a rebuild situation like 2001 or 2009, that they believe in the players on this roster and that they believe a change in coaching will make the difference. There's no reason to give a year leeway to this group.
Posts: 58,682

03-23-2013, 10:28 PM	#218
Tombstone RJ Broncos' Fan Extraordinaire! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denver Casino cash: $10012184	here's what's gonna happen fellas--if kc has a good draft expectations will again be high because, well, a good draft just does that to fans. If kc has a moderate to crappy draft then game over, you all will be freaking out. Let's pretend kc has a good draft, then comes tc and preseason. This is where kc always wins the SB. You all will be happy as pigs in shit. kc will almost assuredly do well in preseason because, well, they just will. Let's pretend kc has crappy to partly crappy draft, then tc comes and then preseason. If kc does ok in preseason some of you will be back on board, but the majority of you will reserve judgement or flat out crap fire until the real season. as for the regular season, as I said in another post, I have no idea what to expect. If kc has a good draft IMHO then kc will have a shot to at the very least win a few more games than last year, but who knows... __________________ ORANGE COLORED GLASSES ARE ALWAYS ON!
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