Computer Question:Windows Vista

**2112** · 09-10-2006, 06:22 AM

First off..since I am starting this thread on sunday morning/opening day/home opener at Arrowhead.
I want to say to all you guys and gals good luck today!!!AND GO CHIEFS!!!
kick the crap out of those bung-holes today!!!

back to topic..
I am going to be purchasing a new computer within the next 6-12 months..the beast known as windows vista is coming out in late december for corporate use..and in January for home use..

the question is,should I get a computer with XP before vista comes out and not be bothered with the ''working out the kinks of vista''..

Or should I just get a new one with vista??

any feedback is appreciated!!!

**DaFace** · 09-10-2006, 06:29 AM

Depends on how much of a hurry you're in to get a new PC! If you're not in that much of a hurry, wait until late in the year - maybe around the Christmas rush. When they first released WindowsXP, some companies offered a "free upgrade" for computers that came with Windows ME if they were purchased within a month of the release date.

If they do that again, you could potentially buy a new PC, let them "work out the kinks," but then upgrade it to Vista when you're ready for it at no cost to you. Just a thought.

**2112** · 09-10-2006, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace

Depends on how much of a hurry you're in to get a new PC! If you're not in that much of a hurry, wait until late in the year - maybe around the Christmas rush. When they first released WindowsXP, some companies offered a "free upgrade" for computers that came with Windows ME if they were purchased within a month of the release date.

If they do that again, you could potentially buy a new PC, let them "work out the kinks," but then upgrade it to Vista when you're ready for it at no cost to you. Just a thought.

I'm not in a hurry to buy a new one..I just dont want to get stuck with vista and have the same problems like when XP first came out..

I want to get vista after it's been around a while

Psyko Tek · 09-10-2006, 06:42 AM

dudee
always wait for second edition microsoft, or at least 2 service packs before buying

if you don't need a new OS for your applications why get it?

**2112** · 09-10-2006, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek

dudee
always wait for second edition microsoft, or at least 2 service packs before buying

if you don't need a new OS for your applications why get it?

you just answered my question..
I will just buy one with XP later this year before vista comes out..

thanks!!

Vegas_Dave · 09-10-2006, 08:26 AM

Just make sure that you get something Hardware Heavy if you plan to get Vista. It is a very big OS. My recommendations are as follows:

Dual Core Processor - An absolute must with Vista. I have played with it on many configurations and the only one so far that is truly usable was an AMD X2 (dual core 64 bit). If I was buying today, I would get an Intel Core 2 Duo with my second choice being an AMD X2.

2 Gigs RAM - Also an absolute must. Even with a dual core CPU, 1GB is really not enough to use Vista with more than a few apps open.

Video Card - Make sure that you are getting something with a GOOD video card with at least 256mb of video memory. Integrated video cards are a BAD idea with Vista. The Aero interface is very reliant on the video card. This helps keep the CPU freed up because Vista automatically goes to the GPU as the default for Vista's interface.

Other then that, make sure that you are getting a better Hard Drive with a good amount of Cache memory (16mb preferrably) as well as an SATA interface. I would recommend a 10,000 RPM drive as well.

Understand that the Vista Ready logo only means that it has the absolute basic capability to run the cheapest version of Vista.

**2112** · 09-10-2006, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas_Dave

Just make sure that you get something Hardware Heavy if you plan to get Vista. It is a very big OS. My recommendations are as follows:

Dual Core Processor - An absolute must with Vista. I have played with it on many configurations and the only one so far that is truly usable was an AMD X2 (dual core 64 bit). If I was buying today, I would get an Intel Core 2 Duo with my second choice being an AMD X2.

2 Gigs RAM - Also an absolute must. Even with a dual core CPU, 1GB is really not enough to use Vista with more than a few apps open.

Video Card - Make sure that you are getting something with a GOOD video card with at least 256mb of video memory. Integrated video cards are a BAD idea with Vista. The Aero interface is very reliant on the video card. This helps keep the CPU freed up because Vista automatically goes to the GPU as the default for Vista's interface.

Other then that, make sure that you are getting a better Hard Drive with a good amount of Cache memory (16mb preferrably) as well as an SATA interface. I would recommend a 10,000 RPM drive as well.

Understand that the Vista Ready logo only means that it has the absolute basic capability to run the cheapest version of Vista.

thanks dude!!!

I appreciate this!!!

Hammock Parties · 09-10-2006, 08:49 AM

Vista is gay.

eChief · 09-10-2006, 09:01 AM

My son has installed Vista on his computer. There are currently problems with having drivers that work with the system as well as several of the programs he has are not functional with Vista.

I would use XP Pro. In the future I would also probably prefer Vista for corporate over the home version. In the past the home versions of the MS software seems to be really limited on it's functionality.

I run XP Pro on all of my machines. Vista will probably be used only after some of the infant mortality bugs are worked out.

Vegas Dave is right in his commentary.

**2112** · 09-10-2006, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Vista is gay.

thanks for that input

Adept Havelock · 09-10-2006, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek

dudee
always wait for second edition microsoft, or at least 2 service packs before buying

if you don't need a new OS for your applications why get it?

Absolutely. Good rule of thumb for M$-When they release a new OS, they've got most of the bugs out of the old one...

ChiefsLV · 09-10-2006, 10:00 AM

Windows Vista, contrary to Linux Fanboi belief, is not just pretty graphics slapped on top of an old OS. There are major changes underneath the hood. Probably not as much as 98 to XP, but still major changes. The point I'm getting at here is that by going XP and staying XP throughout the life of Vista, you will will eventually be left behind much like those users that stayed with 98 throughout XP's lifetime. I don't know if you do any PC gaming, but Direct X 10 is going to be Vista only. It also has better support for 64bit, etc. I'm waiting until I buy a new PC before I get Vista rather than upgrading my current PC when Vista comes out. It will probably be more than a year since I'm waiting for DDR3 system RAM.

Here's a good article on Vista RC1.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2012792,00.asp

**morphius** · 09-10-2006, 10:16 AM

The best way to move to Vista will be how most people moved to XP, wait until you buy a PC with it. There are some nice things to it I'm sure, but how many of them are truly "must haves", I doubt many. Add in the high requirements it makes sense to wait for the hardware to really surpass the curent requirements.

**2112** · 09-14-2006, 09:55 AM

!!!!

2 days after I start this thread..my hard drive crashes!!!!

thanks for all the input!!!!

I have a kick ass machine now!!!

Eleazar · 09-14-2006, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius

The best way to move to Vista will be how most people moved to XP, wait until you buy a PC with it. There are some nice things to it I'm sure, but how many of them are truly "must haves", I doubt many. Add in the high requirements it makes sense to wait for the hardware to really surpass the curent requirements.

Exactly.

I got a free upgrade from Windows Mistake Edition to XP or else I would still be using something really old.

I don't need the cosmetic stuff and I don't game really, so I could still be using 98 or whatever and probably be fine.

09-10-2006, 06:22 AM
2112 Reset Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8556765	Computer Question:Windows Vista First off..since I am starting this thread on sunday morning/opening day/home opener at Arrowhead. I want to say to all you guys and gals good luck today!!!AND GO CHIEFS!!! kick the crap out of those bung-holes today!!! back to topic.. I am going to be purchasing a new computer within the next 6-12 months..the beast known as windows vista is coming out in late december for corporate use..and in January for home use.. the question is,should I get a computer with XP before vista comes out and not be bothered with the ''working out the kinks of vista''.. Or should I just get a new one with vista?? any feedback is appreciated!!!
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09-10-2006, 06:29 AM	#2
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $2056899	Depends on how much of a hurry you're in to get a new PC! If you're not in that much of a hurry, wait until late in the year - maybe around the Christmas rush. When they first released WindowsXP, some companies offered a "free upgrade" for computers that came with Windows ME if they were purchased within a month of the release date. If they do that again, you could potentially buy a new PC, let them "work out the kinks," but then upgrade it to Vista when you're ready for it at no cost to you. Just a thought.
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09-10-2006, 06:42 AM	#4
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09-10-2006, 08:26 AM	#6
Vegas_Dave Veteran Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Casino cash: $2114720	Just make sure that you get something Hardware Heavy if you plan to get Vista. It is a very big OS. My recommendations are as follows: Dual Core Processor - An absolute must with Vista. I have played with it on many configurations and the only one so far that is truly usable was an AMD X2 (dual core 64 bit). If I was buying today, I would get an Intel Core 2 Duo with my second choice being an AMD X2. 2 Gigs RAM - Also an absolute must. Even with a dual core CPU, 1GB is really not enough to use Vista with more than a few apps open. Video Card - Make sure that you are getting something with a GOOD video card with at least 256mb of video memory. Integrated video cards are a BAD idea with Vista. The Aero interface is very reliant on the video card. This helps keep the CPU freed up because Vista automatically goes to the GPU as the default for Vista's interface. Other then that, make sure that you are getting a better Hard Drive with a good amount of Cache memory (16mb preferrably) as well as an SATA interface. I would recommend a 10,000 RPM drive as well. Understand that the Vista Ready logo only means that it has the absolute basic capability to run the cheapest version of Vista. __________________ Lastly, Redrum_69:
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09-10-2006, 08:49 AM	#8
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09-10-2006, 09:01 AM	#9
eChief Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	My son has installed Vista on his computer. There are currently problems with having drivers that work with the system as well as several of the programs he has are not functional with Vista. I would use XP Pro. In the future I would also probably prefer Vista for corporate over the home version. In the past the home versions of the MS software seems to be really limited on it's functionality. I run XP Pro on all of my machines. Vista will probably be used only after some of the infant mortality bugs are worked out. Vegas Dave is right in his commentary.
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09-10-2006, 10:00 AM	#12
ChiefsLV Starter Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV Casino cash: $7102003	Windows Vista, contrary to Linux Fanboi belief, is not just pretty graphics slapped on top of an old OS. There are major changes underneath the hood. Probably not as much as 98 to XP, but still major changes. The point I'm getting at here is that by going XP and staying XP throughout the life of Vista, you will will eventually be left behind much like those users that stayed with 98 throughout XP's lifetime. I don't know if you do any PC gaming, but Direct X 10 is going to be Vista only. It also has better support for 64bit, etc. I'm waiting until I buy a new PC before I get Vista rather than upgrading my current PC when Vista comes out. It will probably be more than a year since I'm waiting for DDR3 system RAM. Here's a good article on Vista RC1. http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2012792,00.asp
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09-10-2006, 10:16 AM	#13
morphius World's finest morphius Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6965027	The best way to move to Vista will be how most people moved to XP, wait until you buy a PC with it. There are some nice things to it I'm sure, but how many of them are truly "must haves", I doubt many. Add in the high requirements it makes sense to wait for the hardware to really surpass the curent requirements.
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09-14-2006, 09:55 AM	#14
2112 Reset Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8556765	!!!! 2 days after I start this thread..my hard drive crashes!!!! thanks for all the input!!!! I have a kick ass machine now!!!
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