Cardinals ***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread - Page 173

**BigRedChief** · 08:16 PM

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.

Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.

The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.

Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:

* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.

The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.

The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.

The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.

The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.

The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-09-2013, 06:24 PM

Wait, I think it means we got Boggs for the Rockies' 4th Int'l pick slot, #93, which is worth $206K.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-09-2013, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Wait, I think it means we got Boggs for the Rockies' 4th Int'l pick slot, #93, which is worth $206K.

IDK. Gould has since texted about the value, and his number matches mine.

Then again, that's much closer to fair value.

**BigRedChief** · 07-09-2013, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Wait, I think it means we got Boggs for the Rockies' 4th Int'l pick slot, #93, which is worth $206K.

Still a great deal for us. Do you think he had any value at all? Remember the Rockies are also on the hook for his $3million salary.

The Cardinals tonight traded righthanded reliever Mitchell Boggs, who had been at Class AAA Memphis, to the Colorado Rockies for their fourth slot in the international signing bonus pool, which is No. 93 overall.

Worth $206,400, the Cardinals would have until next July 2 to spend that money for a prospect or prospects in the Dominican Rebublic or Venezuela.

Marcellus · 07-09-2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Still a great deal for us. Do you think he had any value at all? Remember the Rockies are also on the hook for his $3million salary

That alone makes it worth the move even half way through the season.

**BigRedChief** · 07-09-2013, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

That alone makes it worth the move even half way through the season.

My bad. The sTL article said Boggs, Zep and Salas was 3.1 in salary.

Boggs salary

1 year/$1.475M (2013)
- re-signed by St. Louis 1/18/13 (avoided arbitration)
- performance bonuses
1 year/$0.506M (2012)
- re-signed by St. Louis 2/29/12

Pepe Silvia · 07-09-2013, 07:00 PM

3-0 against the Ass-tros.

Marcellus · 07-09-2013, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

My bad. The sTL article said Boggs, Zep and Salas was 3.1 in salary.

Boggs salary

1 year/$1.475M (2013)
- re-signed by St. Louis 1/18/13 (avoided arbitration)
- performance bonuses
1 year/$0.506M (2012)
- re-signed by St. Louis 2/29/12

Throw in the $5MM they burned on Ty.

**BigRedChief** · 07-09-2013, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerinMo

3-0 against the Ass-tros.

Norris doesn't have his dark magic working on us tonight.

Marcellus · 07-09-2013, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Norris doesn't have his dark magic working on us tonight.

He really hasn't been good against the Cards in a while. We beat him up earlier this year too.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-09-2013, 09:24 PM

Are you ****ing kidding me? Our closer is warming in a game where we had an eight run lead in the 9th.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-09-2013, 09:30 PM

Wow. Go **** yourself, Blazek.

Pepe Silvia · 07-09-2013, 09:32 PM

Come on, jeez.

Pepe Silvia · 07-09-2013, 09:39 PM

Mujica closes it out, I was scared he was about to load 'em up.

**BigRedChief** · 07-09-2013, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Are you ****ing kidding me? Our closer is warming in a game where we had an eight run lead in the 9th.

What about Molina playing in the 7th inning with a 7 run lead and Waino on the mound?

VAChief · 07-10-2013, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

What about Molina playing in the 7th inning with a 7 run lead and Waino on the mound?

Especially after watching him gimp home on the single to left. Why not run for him there? You were up 6-0 already. Not smart.

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