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Old 11-14-2007, 08:18 AM  
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Possible big-time Offensive coordinator candidates could be available this offseason

I think Solari will be gone (or hopefully demoted back to O-line coach where he belongs). Look at who COULD be available after the season:

Brad Childress
Norv Turner
Cam Cameron
Scott Linehan
Charlie Weiss

Any of these guys would be a HUGE upgrade as all have coordinated successful offenses. While they may not be head coaching material, it would be great to have any of them calling our plays and would be great to have with our new young QB. I'm sure all of them won't get fired (Weiss and Cameron are the least likely, IMHO).
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:37 AM   #31
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Of that list, I think Norv Turner is the only one likely to get fired.
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:42 AM   #32
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this is the same system that we ran '02-'05. The same thing the Rams ran during their run, the same thing Coryell ran in the '80's and the same thing Dallas ran in the early '90's. It's the offensive line that's the main problem now.
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:42 AM   #33
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In the fourth quarter of nearly every game.

Why, I don't know, but it happens nearly every week.

I just hope Cowher doesn't take a HC job before the Herm/Peterson contracts are up...
because in the 4th quarter of every game we are behind and have to open of the offense.

big example when we played Chicage .....


1st quarter - offense sucked

2nd quarter - we fall behind by 17 points and they open it up. 1 drives = 7 points.

3rd quarter - back to being competition ..... run,run,pass,punt.

4th quarter - we are within 7 and still sucking
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:44 AM   #34
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this is the same system that we ran '02-'05. The same thing the Rams ran during their run, the same thing Coryell ran in the '80's and the same thing Dallas ran in the early '90's. It's the offensive line that's the main problem now.
then how do you explain that fact that when we voluntarily get aggressive that we have seen some success?



all the sudden the offense line gets good?
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:47 AM   #35
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... Marty/Herm puts the squeeze on their starting QB with the constant "just don't lose the game" talk and before you know it the Quarterback starts getting timid and his game goes to complete shite.
That's the potential hazard we're facing, Mr. Laz, for sure. If Herm handcuffs Croyle, he's screwed and so are we.

The problem is, Herm's likely to do just that.

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Old 11-14-2007, 11:49 AM   #36
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the preseason results disagree ........ Croyle got scared, just like Huard.

best thing that could of happened to croyle was going to the best and getting Herm off his back.

i fully expect Croyle to get worse the longer he stays a starter. We've been through this all before. Marty/Herm puts the squeeze on their starting QB with the constant "just don't lose the game" talk and before you know it the Quarterback starts getting timid and his game goes to complete shite.
I just wish we coulda drafted a QB 6 or 7 years ago when Vermeil was here!

He's the perfect coach to groom a QB. He did it with Green, and I m sure he coulda did it with a younger QB.

It woulda been perfect and ideal thing to do because the environment was awesome for offense. Young QB comes in, with a good system and good offensive line, a good offensive coach, good QB coach, etc. Think about it? If we did that, we would probably be ahead 6, 7 years in terms of quarterbacking.

Of course, this organization has to do a lot of things backwards. Draft a young QB, and develop him behind the worst offensive coaches in the game.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:03 PM   #37
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With a run game, a damaged Trent Green in 8 games threw for 1342. Huard 1878 for 8 games. This year in 8 1/2 games Huard threw for 1766, no run game.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:30 PM   #38
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I'd want Weiss. He could do wonders for Croyle, IMO.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:39 PM   #39
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With a run game, a damaged Trent Green in 8 games threw for 1342. Huard 1878 for 8 games. This year in 8 1/2 games Huard threw for 1766, no run game.
back when Herm was still trying to pretend that he wasn't changing the offense.


the offensive line loses hurt ........ but good offensive coaches can adapt.

the colts offensive line isn't any better than ours
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:47 PM   #40
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Is Huard's receivers about even with last year. He has no Kennison, Bowe is outstanding, but just a rookie. Samie Parker has improved. Webb
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:52 PM   #41
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The highest ranking offense Herm ever had (in terms of points scored) was 15th. That was once with the Jets and last year with KC. Those hoping there is going to be some miraculous offensive production are in for a rude awakening. Even if Herm turns ship you are probably looking at a ranking between 15 and 20. Hermball.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:56 PM   #42
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Pennington, Testeverde(sp?), damaged Green & Huard aren't exactly much to work with
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:58 PM   #43
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The Jets drafted Pennington the year before Herm arrived, a 2nd I think. Maybe that is why he had Hackett or Raye, trying to rid him self of rag arm
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:55 PM   #44
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Ugh...pass.

I hate Childress. Linehan didn't look like anything special w/o Randy Moss, look at Weiss' college offenses, and Norv is still Norv.

If you put a gun to my head, I'd take Cameron, but even then, I'm not overly sold on him.

And I'm fine with demoting Solari, I'd just demote him to mop operator at Jackson County's 25 cent theater.
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Pennington, Testeverde(sp?), damaged Green & Huard aren't exactly much to work with
He's the head coach. Get a damn you QB if you don't like the guys you have. People give Herm every pass in the book.
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