It's time we ban pitbulls

[Richard_Cuckold]

Enough is enough. These dogs are way too strong & unpredictable. Plus, they are normally owned by the wrong people. Deadly combo right there.

This latest pitbull attack is absolutely heartbreaking.

A 14-month-old Wisconsin boy has died after a brutal attack by a pair of pit bulls, authorities said on Thursday.
Police received a call from Susan Iwicki, 30, on Wednesday saying that she and the young boy were being attacked by the dogs, according to local NBC affiliate WMTV. Iwicki told police that she and the boy had each sustained injuries.

The boy died of his injuries at a Milwaukee area hospital later on Wednesday, the Walworth County sheriff’s office said, according to The Associated Press.
The boy had the “biggest eyes, great smile,” family friend Valerie Brylow told local affiliate WTMJ. “He was a great little boy.”
“He is adorable, absolutely adorable,” Nicole Jennison, another family friend told the station.
The boy’s name has not been released, and an investigation continues. Both of the pit bulls were removed from the property and euthanized on Wednesday, WMTV reported.
The fatal dog attack was the first in Wisconsin in a decade, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.


http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...lling-him?lite

[Ace Gunner]

my hawaiian wild boar hunting friends disagree with you. I've own PB's in the past. great dogs. no problems.

[Abba-Dabba]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

You clearly still suffer from reading comprehension FAIL. I hoped you'd figure that out when I simply said "That's not what I said", but I can see I'm going to have to spell it out.

I said it would be easy to eliminate pit bulls because they provide no benefit to society. You jumped in and said that giving a benefit to society is not a requirement of existence or acceptance for any creature.

I agree, it's NOT a requirement for existence or acceptance. Do you get that part? I agree with that statement.

However, (and this is where you need to pay attention), a reasonable requirement for existence or acceptance is to NOT kill children and adults who live in the same house or in the same neighborhood. Not all pit bulls kill children and adults. In fact, I'm well aware that the vast majority don't. But enough of them do that society would be better off if we banned the breed.

Is this unfair discrimination against pit bulls? It would be if pit bulls were human beings and they had civil rights. But guess what? Pit bulls are not human beings. They're dogs. They have no civil rights. Dogs don't have civil rights. Neither do cats, birds, trees, and rocks. Only people have civil rights.

The fact that pit bulls provide no benefit makes it EASY to eliminate them. It's not a REASON to eliminate them. There are lots of things that provide no benefit to society. Nobody is talking about eliminating them.

Banning a breed isn't going to help. Another "macho breed" will just jump up and take their place. The only way you can curtail the bad with these animals is to alter human behavior through heavy handed legislation. When you have people on the take willing to take every $500-1000 from any tom, dick and harry who comes through the door wanting a status symbol to show the chicks when he walks around the block. Expect bad shit to come from it.

It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to understand that many breeds in the wrong hands, that the future path for the owner and dog isn't going to be all peaches and cream. Regulate sales of dangerous breeds, make dog liability insurance madatory for all dangerous breeds, have a set of standards that each home must meet. Heavily fine those who refuse to comply. The owner must pay all costs associated with gaining and keeping ownership. This isn't a hard thing to fix. But the problem lies with both sides. On one side you have people wanting to ban a breed of dog. Completely unrealistic TBH. And you have the other wacky side that makes brilliant comments like "let's just ban people." Neither work and are completely counterproductive to finding a proper resolution. Put in place a system to weed in the potential good owners and weed out the bad and the problems begin to resolve.

[Predarat]

"Instead of a law, we should organize a huge epic master Pit Bull fighting tournament. Let them take care of each other. Last remaining Pit Bull gets a raw Porterhouse Steak. Then it gets nuetered."
-Ron Mexico

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Predarat

"Instead of a law, we should organize a huge epic master Pit Bull fighting tournament. Let them take care of each other. Last remaining Pit Bull gets a raw Porterhouse Steak. Then it gets nuetered."
-Ron Mexico

Is that you Michael Vick ?????

[ndws]

Originally Posted by nstygma

the report says 48%, not 60 or 70
the report does not state that pit bulls make up 3.3% of the population, but that 3.3% of the dogs for sale in June 2011 in online or newspaper ads were pit bulls,

also, the reports blames an average of 11 deaths per year on pit bulls.
and its conclusion:

For the same reason, it is sheer foolishness to encourage people to regard pit bull
terriers and Rottweilers as just dogs like any other, no matter how much they may
behave like other dogs under ordinary circumstances.Temperament is not the issue, nor is it even relevant. What is relevant is
actuarial risk. If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but
will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a
pit bull terrier or a Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed--
and that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk, for which the dogs as well as their
victims are paying the price.
Pit bulls and Rottweilers are accordingly dogs who not only must be handled with
special precautions, but also must be regulated with special requirements appropriate to
the risk they may pose to the public and other animals, if they are to be kept at all

Interesting. So, if you own a dog that **could** be aggressive, its recommended that the dog be handled with special precautions? You mean responsibility by the owner? Not spam breeding the shit out of them and giving them to every dickwad who wants to toughen their image?

I'm guessing some people think its ok to turn their 15 yr old with a learner's permit to just drive their Ferrari. I would have to think that might yield some unsavory results too. Ban pit bulls. Ban guns. Bubble wrap the whole world for the irresponsible, stupid, and lazy.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by RubberSponge

Banning a breed isn't going to help. Another "macho breed" will just jump up and take their place. The only way you can curtail the bad with these animals is to alter human behavior through heavy handed legislation. When you have people on the take willing to take every $500-1000 from any tom, dick and harry who comes through the door wanting a status symbol to show the chicks when he walks around the block. Expect bad shit to come from it.

It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to understand that many breeds in the wrong hands, that the future path for the owner and dog isn't going to be all peaches and cream. Regulate sales of dangerous breeds, make dog liability insurance madatory for all dangerous breeds, have a set of standards that each home must meet. Heavily fine those who refuse to comply. The owner must pay all costs associated with gaining and keeping ownership. This isn't a hard thing to fix. But the problem lies with both sides. On one side you have people wanting to ban a breed of dog. Completely unrealistic TBH. And you have the other wacky side that makes brilliant comments like "let's just ban people." Neither work and are completely counterproductive to finding a proper resolution. Put in place a system to weed in the potential good owners and weed out the bad and the problems begin to resolve.

Your position is reasonable. I could get on board with that.

Thanks for posting an intelligent rebuttal. Some of the rebuttals here are anything but that. Are you listening, Just Passing By?

[Ace Gunner]

ban chihuahuas

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

ban chihuahuas

How many chihuahuas would it take to take on a fully grown, pissed off pitbull?

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by jimw51

Its the people not the breed

LOL

"Pitbulls don't kill people. People kill people."

[Frankie]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/t...3#.UVUKmFdBH4Y

ELLABELL, Ga. March 28, 2013 (AP)

"A toddler who slipped outside through a doggie door was mauled to death by her family's seven dogs in the backyard while the attack went unnoticed by the child's mother and other relatives inside their home, a southeast Georgia sheriff said Thursday.

Bryan County Sheriff Clyde Smith said the child's grandmother told investigators she was lying in bed when she heard the pit bulls and pit bull mixes barking, and she looked outside her window to see them dragging the girl."....

[MOhillbilly]

These dogs are saving tax payers millions.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Frankie

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/t...3#.UVUKmFdBH4Y

ELLABELL, Ga. March 28, 2013 (AP)

"A toddler who slipped outside through a doggie door was mauled to death by her family's seven dogs in the backyard while the attack went unnoticed by the child's mother and other relatives inside their home, a southeast Georgia sheriff said Thursday.

Bryan County Sheriff Clyde Smith said the child's grandmother told investigators she was lying in bed when she heard the pit bulls and pit bull mixes barking, and she looked outside her window to see them dragging the girl."....

Read about this on another forum.

Apparently, 4 generations live in that house and the mom is 18 years old.

[SPchief]

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

These dogs are saving tax payers millions.

rep

[Just Passin' By]

London (CNN) -- The death of a 14-year-old girl who was apparently fatally savaged by a pack of dogs at a friend's home has prompted horror in Britain....

...UK newspaper reports suggest that an American bulldog, two Staffordshire bull terriers and a bull mastiff attacked the teenager...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/27/world/...dogs-kill-girl

Killing humans.... it isn't just for pitbulls anymore.

[COchief]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/27/world/...dogs-kill-girl

Killing humans.... it isn't just for pitbulls anymore.

Oh with your bullshit "American bulldog/staffordshire" load of crap. That is a classic weasel small cock pit owner maneuver. They are basically the same god damn worthless facking violent dogs. You and your ilk like to try and tear apart any face-tearing or child dismemberment done by a "pit bull" with your ridiculous and bullshit laden excuses about how "that's not a pit!".

Straight from wiki for your dumbass:
The term pit bull refers to certain breeds of dog – namely, the American Pit Bull Terrier, the American Staffordshire Terrier, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and any crosses between the three. In a few parts of the world, the American Bulldog is also classified as 'Pit Bull'-type dog, despite the fact that they have major genetic differences.

See dumbass, everyone with a brain considers any of those shit tier breeds the same. Notice the above description contains 2 out of 3 of your "not pitbulls"? This is how people with functioning brains view these crap dogs.