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Old 02-28-2017, 06:13 PM  
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Dontari Poe: Deal Watch Thread

ESPN's Ed Werder:

"His numbers have dropped off considerably in recent years, but he's still a unique player. As of last night, the Chiefs had been in contact with him, they were having negotiations, but they were not close to a deal. At that point, there was still no discussion if they would franchise him if they got the Berry deal done."

"The Berry deal give the Chiefs all the leverage in the world with Dontari Poe."


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Old 03-01-2017, 07:47 AM   #46
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We should have spent Berrys money on Hightower. DL dominance wins more than safeties.
Hightower's a goddamn linebacker, and he's not even good in coverage.

You don't pay top dollar for a two-down LB....and in today's NFL those guys are rapidly become one-down players.

Shit, he can't even stay healthy.
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Old 03-01-2017, 07:51 AM   #47
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Remember that pile of shit? Remember how long it took to find a legit NT?

You guys are nuts if you think Poe is easily replaceable. Also, Howard isn't Poe. Howard doesn't play hurt period. You don't let guys like Poe walk.
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:01 AM   #48
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Howard was every bit as good as Poe when he played NT in 2015. He had the best run stop percentage in the entire NFL. He had seven goddamn sacks (I know his NFL page says 5.5 but PFF credited him wtih 7).

He's a cheaper player without the injury history Poe has.

Are you even aware of how poor Poe's 2016 went?

He was the 59th rated interior defender on PFF, and 90th in run defense. NINETIETH. He's a big fat body at this point and not much else.

This is a no brainer.
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:04 AM   #49
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:05 AM   #50
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Howard doesn't play hurt and he misses more time than you think. Also, if he's better than Poe, why wasn't he the starter? You think Andy starts Poe because he's a fan favorite? Those stats are worthless spider.
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:06 AM   #51
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I'd like to keep him for another year on the tag, and make the call next year.
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:18 AM   #52
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I like Howard but didn't he just miss most of this past season due to injury? But we should let Poe walk becsuse of his back which caused him to miss maybe a 1 game this year. Or did he just sit out a bunch of practices? To count on Howard to be the guy instead of Poe because of Poe's back seems kind of silly.
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:19 AM   #53
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Howard doesn't play hurt and he misses more time than you think. Also, if he's better than Poe, why wasn't he the starter? You think Andy starts Poe because he's a fan favorite? Those stats are worthless spider.
Because Howard can play anywhere on the line? It's not like he sat behind Poe. A Bailey/Howard/Jones will do just fine even though I do think we retain Poe
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Old 03-01-2017, 08:20 AM   #54
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Where the **** is this guy getting that Howard "doesn't play hurt"?

First off, it's just stupid and baseless. Second, he literally came back and played through the hip injury, but it led to him being out for the year.

I can't even remember him being hurt besides that. Such a strange take.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:27 PM   #56
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Because Howard can play anywhere on the line? It's not like he sat behind Poe. A Bailey/Howard/Jones will do just fine even though I do think we retain Poe
So can Poe. He played DE in college.

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Where the **** is this guy getting that Howard "doesn't play hurt"?

First off, it's just stupid and baseless. Second, he literally came back and played through the hip injury, but it led to him being out for the year.

I can't even remember him being hurt besides that. Such a strange take.
He didnt come back. That is bullshit. Howard had a hip injury that should have taken 1-3 weeks to heal. They expected him to play and he didn't. They held off on putting him on IR for a long time because he should have come back.

Poe has played through way worse.

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So can Poe. He played DE in college.



He didnt come back. That is bullshit. Howard had a hip injury that should have taken 1-3 weeks to heal. They expected him to play and he didn't. They held off on putting him on IR for a long time because he should have come back.

Poe has played through way worse.

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Ok that's a really easy statement to make, can you back it up with actual pertinent facts, and not some anecdotal I played High School football with a bad hip bullshit?
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Ok that's a really easy statement to make, can you back it up with actual pertinent facts, and not some anecdotal I played High School football with a bad hip bullshit?
Research hip injuries and then question the long road they took putting him on IR. I'll agree to disagree. He should have been out there IMO. His injury didn't even require surgery. It's not like he was an 85 year old lady who fell in a bathtub. It was a bruised hip or a hip pointer.
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Research hip injuries and then question the long road they took putting him on IR. I'll agree to disagree. He should have been out there IMO. His injury didn't even require surgery. It's not like he was an 85 year old lady who fell in a bathtub. It was a bruised hip or a hip pointer.
I suppose you're right, we'll agree to disagree. I just don't think we have enough information to say what should have happened.
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