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Old 03-07-2017, 09:17 AM  
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Tell me about these RBs.

Here are the (not well known) RBs I really liked at the Combine. Tell me what you know about them and if you like them:

Donnel Pumphrey, San Diego State
Joe Williams, Utah
Stanley Williams, Kentucky
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Old 03-07-2017, 06:26 PM   #2
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Donnel Pumphrey had a whole lot of buzz before the start of the season.

San Diego was talking about Heisman...that kind of buzz. IIRC, he broke some of Faulks SDSU records too.

IIRC, he didn't finish the season strong.

Personally, i feel that his frame is too slight to be more than a gadget player at the NFL level. He's not very strong. Take the pads off and he looks like a regular college kid.

I think he's Dexter McCluster in the NFL. He's going to have a tough time breaking tackles and getting the edge in the NFL.

I think Dexter McCluster is absolutely the best NFL comparison.
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Old 03-08-2017, 12:13 AM   #3
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He's got size on Dex, doesn't he?
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Old 03-08-2017, 01:33 AM   #4
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[QUOTE=Direckshun;12772082]Here are the (not well known) RBs I really liked at the Combine. Tell me what you know about them and if you like them:

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Donel Pumphrey, San Diego State
Strictly a return guy that could play the slot periodically.

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Joe Williams, Utah
Excellent vision that sees the seam before it actually opens up. Amazing explosive acceleration able to hit 5th gear on demand. Excellent one cut and shoot up the field with great vertical direction at all times. Hits the corner and turns up very quickly but has a tendency to be a bit too impatient not letting his blockers totally set up for him. Very good between the tackles with above average power. Analysis here all based on this highlight youtube clip.




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Stanley Williams, Kentucky
Excellent vision as well with great balance after getting initially hit maintaining live legs. Above average speed and decent acceleration but not explosive, he needs his blockers much longer down the field for a big run. Does an excellent job being patient waiting on his blockers in order to pick the correct seam/hole. Good power for a smaller back especially between the tackles. Does not go down easy. Analysis all based on this youtube clip here.


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Old 03-08-2017, 07:20 AM   #5
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Joe Williams Utah - Had some huge game this year with 29 attempts, 332 yards, 4 TD against UCLA, 15 attempts, 181 yards, 2 TDs against Arizona State, 35 attempts, 172 yards, 1 TD against Washington, 23 attempts, 149 yards, 1 TD against Oregon, and 26 attempts, 222 yards, 1 TD against Indiana in their bowl game.

I watched a few of Utah's games and like his speed and quickness. Despite the stats, there were times in games where he was really the second back behind freshman Zack Moss. The previous year he was behind Devontae Booker.

He looked good in the week of practice and then the East West Shrine Game. He had 48 yards including 1 run of 35 yards.

The biggest knocks on him might be his fumbles and retirement. He started off the season fumbling in his first two games against Southern Utah and BYU. He got discouraged and decided to retire and sat out for 4 games. He came back with a vengeance. He finished with fumbling 3 times in his last two games with 2 at Colorado and 1 VS Indiana.

At the combine he ran a 4.41 40, 14 BP, 35 vertical, 4.19 in short shuttle so has excellent speed, quickness, and explosion.

He might be drafted in the 5th - 6th round.
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Old 03-08-2017, 07:33 AM   #6
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Joe Williams Utah - Had some huge game this year with 29 attempts, 332 yards, 4 TD against UCLA, 15 attempts, 181 yards, 2 TDs against Arizona State, 35 attempts, 172 yards, 1 TD against Washington, 23 attempts, 149 yards, 1 TD against Oregon, and 26 attempts, 222 yards, 1 TD against Indiana in their bowl game.

I watched a few of Utah's games and like his speed and quickness. Despite the stats, there were times in games where he was really the second back behind freshman Zack Moss. The previous year he was behind Devontae Booker.

He looked good in the week of practice and then the East West Shrine Game. He had 48 yards including 1 run of 35 yards.

The biggest knocks on him might be his fumbles and retirement. He started off the season fumbling in his first two games against Southern Utah and BYU. He got discouraged and decided to retire and sat out for 4 games. He came back with a vengeance. He finished with fumbling 3 times in his last two games with 2 at Colorado and 1 VS Indiana.

At the combine he ran a 4.41 40, 14 BP, 35 vertical, 4.19 in short shuttle so has excellent speed, quickness, and explosion.

He might be drafted in the 5th - 6th round.
Retirement mean he decided to retire(quit) or did he get benched due to fumbles?
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Old 03-08-2017, 08:48 AM   #7
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Old 03-12-2017, 07:54 PM   #8
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Joe Williams is the steal of this draft at RB if he can get his head straight. This fits as I'll also talk up this Utah kid in honor of Sacc.

Combine showed he has the physical skills: 4.4 speed in the 40 yard dash and excelled in the 20 yard shuttle

Averaged 6.7 ypc with 10 touchdowns in his last season at Utah (compare that with Devontae Booker who was their starter in 2015 and averaged 5ypc at Utah before being drafted by Denver). 1400 yards on the ground despite 4 missing games is insane. http://www.espn.com/college-football...6/joe-williams These are Pac 12 teams that he made his b****.

Terrible downsides in what appears to be a lack of commitment to the game, immaturity (UConn ordeal was bad), and fumbling issues.

Definitely feel he is worth using one of our two 3rd round picks (previously round 4/5 guy who had his stock increase after the combine). He's got the speed and the size to be an NFL player. Andy just needs to fix whatever the hell is going on in this kid's head.

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I don't understand Pumphrey. He weighs under 170 and he's not fast. That's a recipe for Dexter McCluster.
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Old 03-12-2017, 09:20 PM   #10
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I don't understand Pumphrey. He weighs under 170 and he's not fast. That's a recipe for Dexter McCluster.
So... a recipe for being a high 2nd rounder with a multi-million dollar second contract?

God I hate this team sometimes.
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Has Christian McCaffrey just completely fallen out of favor? There was a time that it looked like he would be the type of running back Andy dreams about having in this offense....
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Old 03-13-2017, 07:56 PM   #12
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So... a recipe for being a high 2nd rounder with a multi-million dollar second contract?

God I hate this team sometimes.
Apparently it's a winning formula.

I need to test my 40 time at some point. I'm bigger than some of these guys and my straight line speed probably isn't more than a couple of seconds slower. The only thing they've got on me is experience and the ability to make cuts.
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Retirement mean he decided to retire(quit) or did he get benched due to fumbles?
He retired all together. Cited some lower body injuries(nothing severe) and felt like his heart wasn't in it. Came back on his own just a few weeks later after injuries destroyed the Ute backfield.

He's a different caliber player than the other two, but he's got real questions
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Has Christian McCaffrey just completely fallen out of favor? There was a time that it looked like he would be the type of running back Andy dreams about having in this offense....
He's my pick if we don't go Mahomes.
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He's my pick if we don't go Mahomes.
I wouldn't be upset if we took him, but if we go RB I hope it's Dalvin Cook if he's still there.
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