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Old 03-16-2017, 10:59 AM  
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Trumps Budget, setting a direction

The Trump Business man shows in his Budget proposals. For sure he knows he wont get all he wants but he also knows that establishing that expectation will get him big gains in the final measure.

Cutting the UN is a winner with voters, Cutting the EPA and brining them back into focus on real world environmental protection is a must.

Slashing the Arts and PBS? Not so h=good in my estimation but we enjoy PBS and are long term contributors.

But bottom line is, He will accomplish a bunch by cutting fat department by department and moving things back to the states to do and reduce Washingtons overhead.



The new White House budget proposal, a wish list of President Donald Trump’s policies, would cut funding to several arts and grants programs that Republicans have decried for decades.

Trump’s 2018 budget, called “America First: A Budget Blueprint to Make America Great Again,” requests increases in defense spending and reduction of domestic programs.

Specifically, the budget “proposes to eliminate funding for other independent agencies,” including the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH), and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which sends some amount of funding to PBS and National Public Radio.

Though Big Bird only re-airs on PBS (“Sesame Street” is now on HBO), eliminating funding to things like the NEA Corporation for Public Broadcasting is not a new idea. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney suggested cutting the CPB during the 2012 presidential campaign, and was quickly criticized. Former President Barack Obama even accused Romney of trying to kill Big Bird in a campaign ad.
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Old 03-16-2017, 03:45 PM   #16
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I don't mind some of the cuts but saying that our military was gutted or depleted under Obama doesn't make a ton of sense. Looks like most of the spending that was reduced was war spending. If you want to be fiscally responsible, close some of the excessive bases we have oversees and centralize things. No need for an increase in defense spending if you make them roll back the excesses as well. Do we need 12 bases in South Korea?

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Old 03-16-2017, 03:56 PM   #17
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if ever you wonder why the GOP poll's so bad with people under 40 look at this budget it's pretty much offensive to us.
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Old 03-16-2017, 04:03 PM   #18
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Many departments taking cuts grew massively under Obama. The State Dept budget grew around 40% I think so a lot of this stuff is just getting it back to where it was before Obama or not even that far back.

40% total from 2008 to 2016? So a 30% cut now would basically put funding back to where it was in 2008, which means a smaller budget in REAL dollars (due to inflation) than where it was in 2008?

Yeah, I'm probably ok with that. If your 40% increase over the last 8 years is right, then I'm fine. I'm plenty fine with most cuts unless they really cut into the bone.

I'm NOT fine with other moves that offset all savings, like massive and unnecessary increases in military spending, and tax cuts that will drive the deficit higher (if that is the direction the Administration goes in).
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Let's cut Meals on wheels because it's "not showing any results."

What results? Hungry people get to eat. What's so ****ing hard about that?
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Old 03-16-2017, 04:26 PM   #20
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if ever you wonder why the GOP poll's so bad with people under 40 look at this budget it's pretty much offensive to us.
I am under 40 and I am offended by it.

I am offended that more things and higher percentages of departments budgets aren't being cut. That includes DHS and DoD.
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Old 03-16-2017, 06:04 PM   #21
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I don't mind some of the cuts but saying that our military was gutted or depleted under Obama doesn't make a ton of sense. Looks like most of the spending that was reduced was war spending. If you want to be fiscally responsible, close some of the excessive bases we have oversees and centralize things. No need for an increase in defense spending if you make them roll back the excesses as well. Do we need 12 bases in South Korea?

How would you know? Just gross $$? How many airplanes do we have we dont have replacement parts for? How many pilots do we have who have lost certification because we dont have planes or fuel? You are ignorant...thats not an insult...its a fact...you dont have any data and information to evaluate if we have an issue or not. So shut the **** up till you have one iota of information and stop showing your ass. How would you know how many bases we need any ****ing place.
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Old 03-16-2017, 06:27 PM   #22
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Let's cut Meals on wheels because it's "not showing any results."

What results? Hungry people get to eat. What's so ****ing hard about that?
Nah, **** old people, poor people, and children. We didn't get any "results", so can they all please just hurry up and die?
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Old 03-16-2017, 06:44 PM   #23
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Nah, **** old people, poor people, and children. We didn't get any "results", so can they all please just hurry up and die?
What if the states fed them? And the feds didn't take a cut before the folks got fed? That may be a neat Idea, same $ just doesn't get 30% for asswads in DC to send it back.
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Cutting the hell out of the EPA and the Arts

and giving 54b to the defense BUDGET WTF WHO ARE WE AT WAR WITH!?!?!?!
Uhhh..... Radical Islamic Fundamentalist, and also North Korea, China and Iran all pushing are buttons for 8 years.... and now the Left trying to start another cold war with Russia...

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What if the states fed them? And the feds didn't take a cut before the folks got fed? That may be a neat Idea, same $ just doesn't get 30% for asswads in DC to send it back.
I actually can't disagree with this, since these demographics tend to vary state by state.
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if ever you wonder why the GOP poll's so bad with people under 40 look at this budget it's pretty much offensive to us.
That's how we know it's awesome. Somebody has to be the adult, and just because you're 18, well that doesn't really make you an adult. Especially if you've been raised in a liberal household.
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Old 03-16-2017, 07:21 PM   #28
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if ever you wonder why the GOP poll's so bad with people under 40 look at this budget it's pretty much offensive to us.
It really is not. You speak for like 7 people. At best 9.
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Let's cut Meals on wheels because it's "not showing any results."

What results? Hungry people get to eat. What's so ****ing hard about that?
If you think that's what was said you aren't very smart.
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What if the states fed them? And the feds didn't take a cut before the folks got fed? That may be a neat Idea, same $ just doesn't get 30% for asswads in DC to send it back.
Except that won't happen. State budgets are way tighter than the Federal government and they can't just run a deficit if things get hairy.
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