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Old 03-16-2017, 03:28 PM  
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High level Trump anti-terrorism advisor is a Nazi

I heard the arrogant piece of shit interviewed on NPR. No big surprise he's a Nazi, or that Trump hired him as an adviser.

****ing Trump is making a mockery of America.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/talalansari...n-gorka-report

Sebastian Gorka, a top national security adviser to President Trump, has denied reports that he is a member of and took an oath of loyalty to a Nazi-allied group.

On Thursday, The Forward reported that Gorka is a member of Historical Vitézi Rend, a far-right Hungarian group that had ties to the Nazi party from the World War II era.

When BuzzFeed News reached Gorka by phone on Thursday, he stonewalled when asked about the report. “Send a request to White House press,” Gorka told BuzzFeed News. Captain Gyula Soltész, a current leader in the Historical Vitézi Rend in Hungary, later told BuzzFeed News that Gorka is a current member.

Later Thursday, in an interview with Tablet magazine, Gorka was quoted, "I have never been a member of the Vitez Rend. I have never taken an oath of loyalty to the Vitez Rend."

The US State Department says the Vitézi Rend was “under the direction of the Nazi Government of Germany." But Gorka reportedly belongs to a "reconstitution of the original group on the State Department list, which was banned in Hungary until the fall of Communism in 1989," according to The Forward.

There are currently two groups in Hungary that claim to be the legitimate heirs of the original Vitézi Rend, and Gorka, according to the group's leader, is a member of the Historical Vitézi Rend.

The Forward report also claims that if Gorka – who was born in the UK, lived in Hungary, ​and became a US citizen in 2012​ — did not disclose this information when entering the country, ​it could have implications for his immigration status.

"The State Department’s Foreign Affairs Manual specifies that members of the Vitézi Rend 'are presumed to be inadmissible' to the country under the Immigration and Nationality Act,'" The Forward reported. The State Department didn't immediately return a request for comment.

“I'm angered, but not at all surprised, that another person with ties to Nazis and white supremacists is working in a key position in Donald Trump's White House. These views have no place in our country. They certainly should disqualify someone from getting a job in the White House," Rep. David Cicilline, said in a statement to BuzzFeed News. “Seb [Sebastian] Gorka needs to resign. So does Steve Bannon. And until that happens, Donald Trump will still be sending a horrible message about who he's really fighting for.”

“These revelations are deeply disturbing, not least because of what they reveal about the kinds of people able to influence the president of the United States,” said US Congressman Jerrold Nadler of New York.

“It’s shocking that with these revelations he’s not already fired by the president,” Nadler said, adding that,“It’s shocking he was hired in the first place, now with this revelation it’s shocking he hasn’t already been fired.”

Steven Goldstein, executive director of the Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect, an independent US organization, linked Gorka’s non-denial of connections to the Vitézi Rend to what Goldstein calls the White House’s “weak reactions” to the recent spike in antisemitic hate crimes.

“This administration has staff with shockingly anti-Semitic pasts and it is hard to imagine that they have nothing to do with the horrifically weak reactions to anti-Semitic hate crimes that we see coming from this administration," Goldstein said. “That Sebastian Gorka cannot even deny that he has links with a Nazi-affiliated group is symptomatic of the grotesque anti-Semitism that has infected the Trump White House."

Corey Saylor, the director of the department to monitor and combat islamophobia at the Council on American-Islamic Relations said, “The White House should show its commitment to fighting all forms of discrimination, in this case anti-Semitism in particular, by severing ties with Gorka.”

"If proven true, yes he should resign and we demand that members of the Trump Administration end their hypocrisy that they are looking out for American interests when they are entangled with foreign groups and foreign governments," said Rabiah Ahmad of the Muslim Public Affairs Council told BuzzFeed News.

"Obviously this is a complete outrage, said Heidi Beirich, who leads the Intelligence Project at the Southern Poverty Law Canter. "If it turns out to be true that he is a former member of this Nazi 'founded' organization, he should have no role in our government. It's absolutely disgusting."

Farhana Khera, president and executive director of Muslim Advocates said, "We're not especially surprised at an association like this since this administration has become the nation's central organizing body for the nation's anti-Semites, racists, and anti-Muslim bigots." Khera added that "Gorka should absolutely step down and should have never been hired in the first place."

In television interviews with Gorka during one of President Trump's inaugurations balls, the future White House advisor could be seen wearing a traditional Hungarian “bocskai” jacket along with two medals.

In a nearly three minute video posted by Breitbart, where Gorka was once an editor, Gorka explained the origins of a medal he occasionally wears. In the video Gorka says that the medal originally belonged to his father and was given in to him in 1979 "for declaration for his resistance to a dictatorship." Gorka said he wear the medal "in remembrance of what my family went through and what it represents today, to me, as an American."

At no time in the video does Gorka discuss any claims that he is a current member of the Historical Vitézi Rend.

According to a Talking Points Memo report on the clothes and medals worn that night, wrote that “some Hungarians who came across the interview interpreted the getup as a nod to the knightly order of merit Horthy founded in 1920, the Order of Vitéz.”

Horthy is in reference to Admiral Miklos Horthy, founder of the Vitézi Rend and the ruler of Hungary for over 20 years. While the article points out that not all Hungarian scholars agree that the medals “could definitively be identified with Horthy’s Order of Vitéz,” they did agree that “Gorka's regalia is popular today among Hungary's nationalist conservatives.”

Gorka told Tablet magazine on Thursday that he wears his fathers medals to "honor his struggle against totalitarianism."
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Old 03-16-2017, 04:28 PM   #31
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A globalist cabal that intended to create another Pearl Harbor in order to mobilize the US military around the world, destabilize regions, create a refugee crises, and use the chaos as an opportunity to try to move the masses towards world government.

At least in my opinion. I've not seen any evidence that would credibly debunk this conclusion.

Thanks for asking.

Do you think it was the Nazis?
The Nazis? No, no. I'll defer to your judgement. You've obviously spent a lot of time studying the subject.
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Old 03-16-2017, 04:28 PM   #32
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Old 03-16-2017, 04:30 PM   #33
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Old 03-16-2017, 04:39 PM   #34
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The Nazis? No, no. I'll defer to your judgement. You've obviously spent a lot of time studying the subject.
That's a good call because, as usual, you're out of your depth.
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Sebastian Gorka... A Londoner Hungarian - if that doesn't smack you of being a classic Nazi, then...
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Old 03-16-2017, 04:53 PM   #37
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Also, wasn't there a high ranking member of the Senate that was a member of the Klan..?
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Also, wasn't there a high ranking member of the Senate that was a member of the Klan..?
Yes, the White Naggers guy:
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Old 03-16-2017, 05:02 PM   #39
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Corporal Adolf Hitler was ordered in September 1919 to investigate a small group in Munich known as the German Workers' Party.
The use of the term 'workers' attracted the attention of the German Army which was now involved in crushing Marxist uprisings.
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On September 12th, dressed in civilian clothes, Hitler went to a meeting of the German Workers' Party in the back room of a Munich beer hall, with about twenty five people. He listened to a speech on economics by Gottfried Feder entitled, "How and by what means is capitalism to be eliminated?"
After the speech, Hitler began to leave when a man rose up and spoke in favor of the German state of Bavaria breaking away from Germany and forming a new South German nation with Austria.
This enraged Hitler and he spoke out forcefully against the man for the next fifteen minutes uninterrupted, to the astonishment of everyone. One of the founders of the German Workers' Party, Anton Drexler, reportedly whispered: "He's got the gift of the gab. We could use him."
After Hitler's outburst ended, Drexler hurried over to Hitler and gave him a forty-page pamphlet entitled: "My Political Awakening." He urged Hitler to read it and also invited Hitler to come back again
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Also, wasn't there a high ranking member of the Senate that was a member of the Klan..?
That would be Democrat Robert Byrd, former Senate Majority leader, and Hillary's mentor!
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And inevitably some one is going to come along and say that that doesn't matter because he publicly regretted being a high ranking member of the Klan.


Okay, so, if this allegations are true and this Hungarian jerkoff says "Yeah, I joined this group that had some relationship with the Nazis. I shouldn't have done that, I regret joining that organization and know that any association with the Nazi party isn't defensible and it is abhorrent to ever think their ideals are acceptable."

Now, does this guy get the same pass as Byrd?



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Old 03-16-2017, 05:10 PM   #42
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That's a good call because, as usual, you're out of your depth.
Yes, yes, I can see that. This conspiracy stuff requires years of close study, not to mention god knows how many rolls of tinfoil.
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Corporal Adolf Hitler was ordered in September 1919 to investigate a small group in Munich known as the German Workers' Party.
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On September 12th, dressed in civilian clothes, Hitler went to a meeting of the German Workers' Party in the back room of a Munich beer hall, with about twenty five people. He listened to a speech on economics by Gottfried Feder entitled, "How and by what means is capitalism to be eliminated?"
After the speech, Hitler began to leave when a man rose up and spoke in favor of the German state of Bavaria breaking away from Germany and forming a new South German nation with Austria.
This enraged Hitler and he spoke out forcefully against the man for the next fifteen minutes uninterrupted, to the astonishment of everyone. One of the founders of the German Workers' Party, Anton Drexler, reportedly whispered: "He's got the gift of the gab. We could use him."
After Hitler's outburst ended, Drexler hurried over to Hitler and gave him a forty-page pamphlet entitled: "My Political Awakening." He urged Hitler to read it and also invited Hitler to come back again
Ergo, "the Beer Hall Putsch."
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Ergo, "the Beer Hall Putsch."
You had no clue he was sent by his own government to spy on this lil so called club.
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