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Old 03-16-2017, 03:28 PM  
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High level Trump anti-terrorism advisor is a Nazi

I heard the arrogant piece of shit interviewed on NPR. No big surprise he's a Nazi, or that Trump hired him as an adviser.

****ing Trump is making a mockery of America.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/talalansari...n-gorka-report

Sebastian Gorka, a top national security adviser to President Trump, has denied reports that he is a member of and took an oath of loyalty to a Nazi-allied group.

On Thursday, The Forward reported that Gorka is a member of Historical Vitézi Rend, a far-right Hungarian group that had ties to the Nazi party from the World War II era.

When BuzzFeed News reached Gorka by phone on Thursday, he stonewalled when asked about the report. “Send a request to White House press,” Gorka told BuzzFeed News. Captain Gyula Soltész, a current leader in the Historical Vitézi Rend in Hungary, later told BuzzFeed News that Gorka is a current member.

Later Thursday, in an interview with Tablet magazine, Gorka was quoted, "I have never been a member of the Vitez Rend. I have never taken an oath of loyalty to the Vitez Rend."

The US State Department says the Vitézi Rend was “under the direction of the Nazi Government of Germany." But Gorka reportedly belongs to a "reconstitution of the original group on the State Department list, which was banned in Hungary until the fall of Communism in 1989," according to The Forward.

There are currently two groups in Hungary that claim to be the legitimate heirs of the original Vitézi Rend, and Gorka, according to the group's leader, is a member of the Historical Vitézi Rend.

The Forward report also claims that if Gorka – who was born in the UK, lived in Hungary, ​and became a US citizen in 2012​ — did not disclose this information when entering the country, ​it could have implications for his immigration status.

"The State Department’s Foreign Affairs Manual specifies that members of the Vitézi Rend 'are presumed to be inadmissible' to the country under the Immigration and Nationality Act,'" The Forward reported. The State Department didn't immediately return a request for comment.

“I'm angered, but not at all surprised, that another person with ties to Nazis and white supremacists is working in a key position in Donald Trump's White House. These views have no place in our country. They certainly should disqualify someone from getting a job in the White House," Rep. David Cicilline, said in a statement to BuzzFeed News. “Seb [Sebastian] Gorka needs to resign. So does Steve Bannon. And until that happens, Donald Trump will still be sending a horrible message about who he's really fighting for.”

“These revelations are deeply disturbing, not least because of what they reveal about the kinds of people able to influence the president of the United States,” said US Congressman Jerrold Nadler of New York.

“It’s shocking that with these revelations he’s not already fired by the president,” Nadler said, adding that,“It’s shocking he was hired in the first place, now with this revelation it’s shocking he hasn’t already been fired.”

Steven Goldstein, executive director of the Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect, an independent US organization, linked Gorka’s non-denial of connections to the Vitézi Rend to what Goldstein calls the White House’s “weak reactions” to the recent spike in antisemitic hate crimes.

“This administration has staff with shockingly anti-Semitic pasts and it is hard to imagine that they have nothing to do with the horrifically weak reactions to anti-Semitic hate crimes that we see coming from this administration," Goldstein said. “That Sebastian Gorka cannot even deny that he has links with a Nazi-affiliated group is symptomatic of the grotesque anti-Semitism that has infected the Trump White House."

Corey Saylor, the director of the department to monitor and combat islamophobia at the Council on American-Islamic Relations said, “The White House should show its commitment to fighting all forms of discrimination, in this case anti-Semitism in particular, by severing ties with Gorka.”

"If proven true, yes he should resign and we demand that members of the Trump Administration end their hypocrisy that they are looking out for American interests when they are entangled with foreign groups and foreign governments," said Rabiah Ahmad of the Muslim Public Affairs Council told BuzzFeed News.

"Obviously this is a complete outrage, said Heidi Beirich, who leads the Intelligence Project at the Southern Poverty Law Canter. "If it turns out to be true that he is a former member of this Nazi 'founded' organization, he should have no role in our government. It's absolutely disgusting."

Farhana Khera, president and executive director of Muslim Advocates said, "We're not especially surprised at an association like this since this administration has become the nation's central organizing body for the nation's anti-Semites, racists, and anti-Muslim bigots." Khera added that "Gorka should absolutely step down and should have never been hired in the first place."

In television interviews with Gorka during one of President Trump's inaugurations balls, the future White House advisor could be seen wearing a traditional Hungarian “bocskai” jacket along with two medals.

In a nearly three minute video posted by Breitbart, where Gorka was once an editor, Gorka explained the origins of a medal he occasionally wears. In the video Gorka says that the medal originally belonged to his father and was given in to him in 1979 "for declaration for his resistance to a dictatorship." Gorka said he wear the medal "in remembrance of what my family went through and what it represents today, to me, as an American."

At no time in the video does Gorka discuss any claims that he is a current member of the Historical Vitézi Rend.

According to a Talking Points Memo report on the clothes and medals worn that night, wrote that “some Hungarians who came across the interview interpreted the getup as a nod to the knightly order of merit Horthy founded in 1920, the Order of Vitéz.”

Horthy is in reference to Admiral Miklos Horthy, founder of the Vitézi Rend and the ruler of Hungary for over 20 years. While the article points out that not all Hungarian scholars agree that the medals “could definitively be identified with Horthy’s Order of Vitéz,” they did agree that “Gorka's regalia is popular today among Hungary's nationalist conservatives.”

Gorka told Tablet magazine on Thursday that he wears his fathers medals to "honor his struggle against totalitarianism."
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Old 03-17-2017, 08:13 AM   #91
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You're a RWNJ in the Age of Trump and you're asking for proof?

Are you ****ing serious?
I have a serious question Niner......outside of this website, The Forward, reporting that they spoke to a "leader" of one of the two supposed subsets of the original Vietz Rand (a group that allegedly had ties to WWII Nazi party), what about this person makes him such a piece of shit in your mind? Do you have evidence of his actions, words, behavior that you use to come to this conclusion? The goddamn article you posted is hilariously laughable and offers zero evidence of anything it claims. And you all wonder why people laugh at this stuff.....this is Exhibit A

Three separate statements in YOUR article have Gorka directly quoted denying that he is a member of this group, yet the article has some other propagandist moron in Congress making these same grand calls for resignation based on complete hearsay and using terms like "if this turns out to be true......."

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The Jewish Daily Forward, a far-left paper led by the likes of Peter Beinart (a man who supports the “Boycott, Divest, Sanctions” (BDS) movement to boycott the state of Israel), has wrongly accused a top Trump aide of being a member of a Nazi group.

The Forward alleged Thursday that Sebastian Gorka — a counterterrorism expert and staunch supporter of the Jewish people and the State of Israel — is a member of the Hungarian Vitezi Rend political group, which was reportedly once tied to Nazi sympathizers during World War II.

No evidence is provided to support the allegation that Gorka is a member of the group. But as supposed proof, the Forward interviews an alleged member of Vitez Rend who claims to have known his father, who says, “of course he was sworn in.” Yet, the man in the interview does not claim to be a witness to Gorka’s swearing in, nor does he claim to be even know the Trump official beyond meeting him one time.

Nonetheless, the Left couldn’t pass up an opportunity to run wild with the unproven allegations against a top Trump adviser. The story — which again, provided zero evidence for the severe allegations — has been picked by the Atlantic, Salon, Buzzfeed, and several other leftist publications. Moreover, the Hamas-tied Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) is calling for his firing.

Gorka has flat out denied that he is a member of the group, which calls into question the Forward and its shaky reporting standards.

“I have never been a member of the Vitez Rend. I have never taken an oath of loyalty to the Vitez Rend. Since childhood, I have occasionally worn my father’s medal and used the ‘v.’ initial to honor his struggle against totalitarianism,” Gorka tells Tablet Magazine.

According to Tablet, the reason why the White House did not respond to the Forward story was due to a belief that “the allegations were so blatantly false and so aggressively poorly-sourced, that no responsible journalist would ever publish them.”

In its obsessive campaign against Gorka, the Forward has published a dozen hit pieces targeting the Trump advisor over the past month alone.

Gorka is a favorite target of the Left largely because of his unapologetic views on radical Islam. He insists that there is an ideological component to extremist groups like al-Qaeda and ISIS. He has also drawn condemnation from inside the ivory towers of politically correct academia for expressing that there is a religious aspect to their extremist doctrines.

The Trump aide has consistently received the backing of prominent experts and government officials. He has been described as a “patriot” who is “about as anti-Semitic as Benjamin Netanyahu.” Last month, Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.), who leads the Israel Allies Caucus in Congress, described Gorka as the “staunchest friend of Israel and the Jewish people.”

Not once has the establishment media found a shred of public evidence that Gorka harbors anti-Semitic views or has expressed anti-Jewish opinions. Nonetheless, their campaign to oust him continues.

- See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/c....Vhw0lpVq.dpuf
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Old 03-17-2017, 08:14 AM   #92
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:14 AM   #94
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Yes, yes, I can see that. This conspiracy stuff requires years of close study, not to mention god knows how many rolls of tinfoil.
True, but you are living in a glass house to say that to anyone in this thread.

"Everyone's a nazi! Russia is controlling everything! Pro Israel policy is Nazi like!"

It's really asinine.
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:23 AM   #95
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I have a serious question Niner......outside of this website, The Forward, reporting that they spoke to a "leader" of one of the two supposed subsets of the original Vietz Rand (a group that allegedly had ties to WWII Nazi party), what about this person makes him such a piece of shit in your mind? Do you have evidence of his actions, words, behavior that you use to come to this conclusion? The goddamn article you posted is hilariously laughable and offers zero evidence of anything it claims. And you all wonder why people laugh at this stuff.....this is Exhibit A

Three separate statements in YOUR article have Gorka directly quoted denying that he is a member of this group, yet the article has some other propagandist moron in Congress making these same grand calls for resignation based on complete hearsay and using terms like "if this turns out to be true......."
Even if he's not a Nazi, he's a complete douchebag. Again, no surprise he's advising Trump.
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:31 AM   #98
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True, but you are living in a glass house to say that to anyone in this thread.

"Everyone's a nazi! Russia is controlling everything! Pro Israel policy is Nazi like!"

It's really asinine.
I've never made any of those representations. In fact, I don't believe I've ever even mentioned Israel on CP.
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Giner is just a disgusting POS, he doesnt have a single redeeming quality
Posting in front of a mirror, are you? You forgot your period again, better change your skirt.
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Posting in front of a mirror, are you? You forgot your period again, better change your skirt.
Whats it like being a disgusting piece of shit?

I mean, do you wake up in the morning loathing yourself, contemplating putting a shotgun in your mouth... or have you gotten so used to it that you've become numb to it?
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Whats it like being a disgusting piece of shit?

I mean, do you wake up in the morning loathing yourself, contemplating putting a shotgun in your mouth... or have you gotten so used to it that you've become numb to it?
Sleazy 6, throwing his usual weak insults around. So you're about 12, right? Why the **** aren't you in school?
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