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Old 03-17-2017, 07:55 PM  
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How has God wired you spiritually? What is your spiritual gift/gifts?

When a person comes to Christ, that person receives a spiritual gift and most receive several spiritual gifts through the Power of the Holy Spirit that now inhabits their soul. For a list of those spiritual gifts you can read I Cor. 12 and Romans 12. However, using your spiritual gifts is very much like physical exercise. You need to practice and serve at all times in your gifts so that the Holy Spirit can build up your soul spiritually so that you may be bold in living and serving in your faith. But if you avoid serving with the spiritual gifts Jesus gave you then you will spiritually atrophy. You won't lose your gifts but you will be ineffective in your faith. Paul encourages Timothy to fan into flame the power of the Holy Spirit to use his spiritual gifts and not to be timid. Because the more you use your gifts the more the Power of God is revealed through YOU !!!

Here is the 5th talk by Pastor Jeff in the series called "The Power of the Gospel" and this talk is labeled "Powering Forward"!! Pastor Jeff a talented speaker and teacher of the Bible in this video sermon/audio only if you choose gives much encouragement, joy and hope to both Christians and unbelievers. To discover and develop their spiritual gifts through the person of Jesus Christ. For those of you who have not heard him speak he is truly one of the most authentic, genuine, straight from the heart, pull no punches, tells it like it is, gifted speaker of the Gospel that I have heard in a long time and have met. He is the 'real deal' and your time will not be wasted listening to him.

Blessings to all !!!

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Old 03-20-2017, 07:27 PM   #271
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To be fair, the kids did say it twice. I mean they did sorta have it coming to them.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:27 PM   #272
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In the entire thread there are real and genuine voices. Bless you for who and what you are. And so many who are here to troll. You as well are blessed as you try to bait and test true commitment.

May you see and accept the blessings of real grace in your lives. By your test, its clear you seek it.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:30 PM   #273
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In the entire thread there are real and genuine voices. Bless you for who and what you are. And so many who are here to troll. You as well are blessed as you try to bait and test true commitment.

May you see and accept the blessings of real grace in your lives. By your test, its clear you seek it.
Thank you, you are too kind.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:31 PM   #274
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To be fair, the kids did say it twice. I mean they did sorta have it coming to them.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:31 PM   #275
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In the entire thread there are real and genuine voices. Bless you for who and what you are. And so many who are here to troll. You as well are blessed as you try to bait and test true commitment.

May you see and accept the blessings of real grace in your lives. By your test, its clear you seek it.
Wait, are you calling me Grace?
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:44 PM   #276
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:46 PM   #277
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In the entire thread there are real and genuine voices. Bless you for who and what you are. And so many who are here to troll. You as well are blessed as you try to bait and test true commitment.

May you see and accept the blessings of real grace in your lives. By your test, its clear you seek it.
Faith is a personal relationship and journey, and given there are many different faiths, proselytizing is encroaching in someone's else's private relationship with God. Even if that relationship is silent. Far too often spreading the word is show for indoctrination and adherence to submission of the very person who is doing it. Rejection or disagreement is met with condemnation and rebuke to dismiss anyone who doesn't subscribe as less than, and justification for any misfortune(s) as deserved by equivocating their circumstance as holy retribution while simultaneously falsely reinforcing one's sactimony in their own religious fervor as being saved & therefore spared. Conversely, when calamity does visit them, as it does all people in the course of their own lives, they don't attribute it to being forsaken, but merely being tested as part of their own cross to carry in life.

Too many people use it as a justification of sitting in judgment of other's faults and conveniently gloss over the necessity of devotion to blind charity without expectation or as a means of manipulation in furtherance of indoctrination.

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.


but you shall freely open your hand to him, and shall generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks


And if you give yourself to the hungry And satisfy the desire of the afflicted, Then your light will rise in darkness And your gloom will become like midday


Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven. "So when you give to the poor, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, so that they may be honored by men Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. "But when you give to the poor, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,read more.


Instruct them to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share,


Sorry, but to me, this is the crux of the lip service I detest when I hear statements like, why should I pay for your healthcare, education, etc.

Demonizing & blaming those who have the least is about as unChristian as it gets.

We all want lower taxes, and the same argument holds when people complain why should I pay more taxes than you. Well, if you want to agree to everyone making the same income, then it's certainly fair to say that everyone pay the same taxes. Compensation isn't administered by strict and faithful observation to fairness, and thus recognised that as a people of faith and charity, we are to do so and with stewardship of raising the lowest.

As Luke and Paul both said,

To whom much is given much more is expected [required].

The greatness of any civilization is reflected in the poorest among them and their treatment.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:01 PM   #278
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Faith is a personal relationship and journey, and given there are many different faiths, proselytizing is encroaching in someone's else's private relationship with God. Even if that relationship is silent. Far too often spreading the word is show for indoctrination and adherence to submission of the very person who is doing it. Rejection or disagreement is met with condemnation and rebuke to dismiss anyone who doesn't subscribe as less than, and justification for any misfortune(s) as deserved by equivocating their circumstance as holy retribution while simultaneously falsely reinforcing one's sactimony in their own religious fervor as being saved & therefore spared. Conversely, when calamity does visit them, as it does all people in the course of their own lives, they don't attribute it to being forsaken, but merely being tested as part of their own cross to carry in life.

Too many people use it as a justification of sitting in judgment of other's faults and conveniently gloss over the necessity of devotion to blind charity without expectation or as a means of manipulation in furtherance of indoctrination.

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.


but you shall freely open your hand to him, and shall generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks


And if you give yourself to the hungry And satisfy the desire of the afflicted, Then your light will rise in darkness And your gloom will become like midday


Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven. "So when you give to the poor, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, so that they may be honored by men Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. "But when you give to the poor, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,read more.


Instruct them to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share,


Sorry, but to me, this is the crux of the lip service I detest when I hear statements like, why should I pay for your healthcare, education, etc.

Demonizing & blaming those who have the least is about as unChristian as it gets.

We all want lower taxes, and the same argument holds when people complain why should I pay more taxes than you. Well, if you want to agree to everyone making the same income, then it's certainly fair to say that everyone pay the same taxes.

As Luke and Paul both said,

To whom much is given much more is expected [required].
You deal with many demons. Someday you may throw off the terrible mantle of unhappiness you carry with you.

Faith can be an amazing help and so many positive things will be yours.
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:19 PM   #279
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You deal with many demons. Someday you may throw off the terrible mantle of unhappiness you carry with you.

Faith can be an amazing help and so many positive things will be yours.
Anyone tends to incorrectly conflate things in th e Bible, and parrot unoriginal criticisms to to apply fault and blame..basically being what he is trying to labelothers.

And like others, he likes to pimp the Word when it's convenient,while calling it fallible.

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Old 03-21-2017, 08:55 AM   #280
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Old 03-21-2017, 10:20 AM   #281
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Chiefshrink, do believe that the bible allows for slavery in certain situations? If yes, are you OK with that? If no, how do justify the differences between what the bible says and your beliefs about slavery?
Quoting myself because i still haven't seen an answer.
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Old 03-21-2017, 11:07 AM   #282
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Old 03-21-2017, 11:10 AM   #283
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Quoting myself because i still haven't seen an answer.
The answer is yes slavery is fully endorsed by the bible. Less so for fellow Israelites but the bible does condone slaves, sex slaves and they are your property to pass down as an inheritance. You are of course allowed to beat them as long as they don't die right away.

I know you wanted an answer from chiefshrink, but I thought I'd put the actual facts out there first.
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Old 03-21-2017, 11:33 AM   #284
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I've never understood why atheists get so bent out of shape and confrontational about faith. It sure is a hot button. Yikes
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The Bible denounces slavery as sin. The New Testament puts slave traders in the same category as murderers, adulterers, perverts, and liars (1 Timothy).

In the Old Testament period, it is simply acknowledged that slavery was a fact of life in the ancient world, but knowing the historical context is important. Bankruptcy did not exist - people would voluntarily sell themselves into slavery. A man could use slavery to discharge a debt. Criminals could make restitution by serving as a slave. The Old Testament simply commands those with slaves in their charge to treat them well.

Nowhere is slavery as we know it today ever promoted as a good.
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