Albert just called 610. Wants to stay in KC

[Red Dawg]

Agent is talking to Dorsey. Does not want to play guard. Health is good. For what its worth.

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by Rambozo

I know where you are coming from. I have been a Chiefs fan for 37 years and am almost desperate. I think you are a little desperate for a QB and you have forgotten common sense. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way and I think there are tons of Chiefs fans who feel that way.

When I look at these QBs, i don't see one capable of being a top 10 QB in the NFL. None of them rally their teams consitently. Half the games in the NFL come down to the last two minutes and the final drive. In my opinion, the level of potential between the top three or four guys isn't very different. Maybe one will grade higher over time but, the difference in potential right now is not much. That's what I am looking at.

It's not about having a sure-fire lockdown pick. They don't exist. Even Luck and RG3 came with risk. Those players aren't in this draft but we have to nut up and take a shot on one of these guys. I'll tell you this...the level of risk in taking a quarterback in this year's draft is the same as taking any other position. There is NO CLEAR CUT #1. I'm not in at all for wasting this ****ing pick on depth.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Rambozo

I know where you are coming from. I have been a Chiefs fan for 37 years and am almost desperate. I think you are a little desperate for a QB and you have forgotten common sense. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way and I think there are tons of Chiefs fans who feel that way.

Drafting left tackles, going 9-7 every year, and never winning a playoff game. Now THAT is common sense.

Originally Posted by Rambozo

When I look at these QBs, i don't see one capable of being a top 10 QB in the NFL.

That's because you're the pinnacle of football morons.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Rambozo

I know where you are coming from. I have been a Chiefs fan for 37 years and am almost desperate. I think you are a little desperate for a QB and you have forgotten common sense. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way and I think there are tons of Chiefs fans who feel that way.

When I look at these QBs, i don't see one capable of being a top 10 QB in the NFL. None of them rally their teams consitently. Half the games in the NFL come down to the last two minutes and the final drive. In my opinion, the level of potential between the top three or four guys isn't very different. Maybe one will grade higher over time but, the difference in potential right now is not much. That's what I am looking at. If you take a QB #1, you are probably taking a project #1 overall and that would be a big mistake. It's a mistake that would be big that it will not be made imo. Despite the rookie wage scale, people's jobs are on the line and no one is going to sign off on one of these guys imo.

Regurgitated bullshit. You could say the same thing for just about any draft in the last 10 years. Good teams say **** you and take the chance, because they know you can't win consistently any other way. Bad teams use this shit as an excuse year after year for why they didn't take the chance, and that's why they remain in mediocre purgatory.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Drafting left tackles, going 9-7 every year, and never winning a playoff game. Now THAT is common sense.



That's because you're the pinnacle of football morons.

He's got us on ignore, no point in debating him.


Pretty sure he's trolling anyway. No one is that stupid.

[Strongside]

Just read this and shut the **** up...

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/ar...draft/12668917

[the Talking Can]

black bob's uncle turned out to be scott pioli

[Rambozo]

Originally Posted by Fish

Regurgitated bullshit. You could say the same thing for just about any draft in the last 10 years. Good teams say **** you and take the chance, because they know you can't win consistently any other way. Bad teams use this shit as an excuse year after year for why they didn't take the chance, and that's why they remain in mediocre purgatory.

It's not BS. I believe in what I'm saying. You just don't like my opinion it seems. No, I don't say this about every class. Sometimes it's safeties, guards, wide receivers or some other position. You can get mad if you want but, you should not expect KC to draft a QB first overall imo.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Just read this and shut the **** up...

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/ar...draft/12668917

It’s a tough year to have the No. 1 overall pick, especially for a quarterback-needy team like the Kansas City Chiefs. There’s no obvious selection, but there is one player they should stay away from. The Chiefs should not select Texas A&M tackle Luke Joeckel with their first-round pick. With the No. 1 overall pick in a draft, the goal should be to drastically improve your team from the year prior. By selecting Joeckel, that means the Chiefs would not re-sign left tackle Branden Albert, so they’d be drafting the rookie tackle to save money, not to improve their team from what they had in 2012. If the Chiefs took Joeckel, it would free up money with the intention of spending it through free agency or trade on unknown veterans, but the way to build a team is through the draft. The New York Jets have proven over the past four years that building off veteran players can be just as big of a risk as building on youth. The Chiefs already have a franchise left tackle in Albert, and while Joeckel could eventually be an improvement over the 28-year-old veteran, it will be a horizontal move for years. That would make Kansas City rely on signing veterans from other rosters, rather than signing the one they know. Andy Reid and the Chiefs should both know that signing veteran talent can be a risk. Nnamdi Asomugha was a bust in Philadelphia and Stanford Routt was a bust in Kansas City in the past two years. Just because a player can succeed on one team and in one system doesn’t mean the same will hold true in their next city. With the new rookie pay scale, veteran players also come at a much higher price tag than young players. That train of thought may seem to run in direct opposition to the theory that the Chiefs should keep Albert and eschew Joeckel. But there does need to be a balance between winning now and winning later. Albert presents the balance between those two options. The Chiefs know he’s good, he’s shown no signs of wearing down, and Kansas City can drastically improve another position while still keeping one of their best players in place. The Chiefs have enough needs — and talent on their roster — that by selecting first, they could change their fortunes from a bottom of the barrel team to a possible playoff team. The Chiefs were close to that level coming in to 2012, and poor coaching and terrible play at quarterback plagued them from the start. If Kansas City does decide to select a quarterback No. 1, it should be Geno Smith, but teams like the Seahawks and 49ers have proven that you don’t necessarily have to take a quarterback in Round 1 to find elite production. Unfortunately, there may not be a greater first-round need for the Chiefs and a player worth taking. Bjoern Werner and Jarvis Jones are possibilities for the first-overall pick, but Tamba Hali and Justin Houston already play outside linebacker in the Kansas City 3-4, and they may be the best players on that defense. The Chiefs could use help at five-technique defensive end and cornerback, but there aren’t any great fits there at No. 1. Star Lotulelei‘s best value will come in a 4-3, and if he played 3-4 defensive end, he would likely be a two-gap player not worthy of the honor of a No. 1 overall pick. So that leaves the West Virginia quarterback for the Chiefs. He may not be Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III, but he would be an improvement over anything Kansas City threw out at quarterback last season. And while Joeckel will be looked at as the most sure thing in the draft, if he’s not an improvement over what the Chiefs already had in 2012, it’s a waste of a pick.

Boom

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by Rambozo

It's not BS. I believe in what I'm saying. You just don't like my opinion it seems. No, I don't say this about every class. Sometimes it's safeties, guards, wide receivers or some other position. You can get mad if you want but, you should not expect KC to draft a QB first overall imo.

[Rambozo]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Just read this and shut the **** up...

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/ar...draft/12668917

I respect that guys opinion but, I disagree that we must take a QB #1 overall. I'm not saying we should take an OT but, I wouldn't be against it.

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by Rambozo

I respect that guys opinion but, I disagree that we must take a QB #1 overall. I'm not saying we should take an OT but, I wouldn't be against it.

Lets just draft a punter. Colquitt is up for FA. We can save money by just drafting a punter with the pick.

[Strongside]

[Rambozo]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Lets just draft a punter. Colquitt is up for FA. We can save money by just drafting a punter with the pick.

Now you are being irrational.

Look, like everyone else in these types of forums I am wrong sometimes. For all I know we could draft Geno #1 overall.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Rambozo

I respect that guys opinion but, I disagree that we must take a QB #1 overall. I'm not saying we should take an OT but, I wouldn't be against it.

Do you have an opinion besides "NO QB!!"

If we draft Fisher or Joekel:
-We have Albert
-We improve our team 0%
-LTs do jack shit (see Jake Long and Joe Thomas)
-We've already spent tons of high draft picks on offensive line

If we draft Moore, Werner, or Jones:
-We have two pretty good passrushers already
-We're consigning the #1 overall pick to depth, which is very definition of not getting adequate pick value
-Jones is a pussy with spinal stenosis, Moore and Werner are less elite pass rushers than Smith, Wilson, and Barkley are elite QBs

If we draft Lotulelei:
-Dude isn't a good 1-gapper
-**** you

Whereas, if we draft a QB:
Positives:
-Fills the most important position and most glaring need on the team
-The best possible ****ing position if you want good draft value
-Gives the franchise some hope for once
-With the CBA agreement, it's never been cheaper

Negatives:
-Might bust
-????????

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Rambozo

It's not BS. I believe in what I'm saying. You just don't like my opinion it seems. No, I don't say this about every class. Sometimes it's safeties, guards, wide receivers or some other position. You can get mad if you want but, you should not expect KC to draft a QB first overall imo.

I'm sure you believe what you're saying. Now you should consider why it's regurgitated bullshit that has no place in today's NFL.