Game of Thrones (spoiler-free zone)

[keg in kc]

A few have suggested it, might as well test the waters. The idea is to give people who haven't read the books a safe place to talk about the show.

A few quick ground rules:

• No Spoilers!!!!! for upcoming episodes.
• Larger Song of Ice and Fire discussion should be limited to the other thread although I think a tiny bit of book delving to fill in holes should be okay (example of this would be talking about Catelyn and her treatment of the wolves in the novel, which was alluded to on TV but never really made clear...)
• Everything that happened that week is fair game once an episode airs. So if you don't watch on Sunday night, I'd stay outta here until you do...

[ThaVirus]

They call it the Doom. As far as I know, it was just some unexplained disaster. I've read that Valyria was situated near a volcano so perhaps that was it. They were also a pretty advanced society so maybe it was something to do with their magic/technology.

All of the people with greyscale in the ruins today were sent there from elsewhere.

[mr. tegu]

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

They call it the Doom. As far as I know, it was just some unexplained disaster. I've read that Valyria was situated near a volcano so perhaps that was it. They were also a pretty advanced society so maybe it was something to do with their magic/technology.

All of the people with greyscale in the ruins today were sent there from elsewhere.

Ah. Forgot about the doom conversation. Do you suppose it Will come out that it was the white walkers?

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

You know, the significance of that is lost in the numbers.

Mance Rader had a 100,000 man army. Between the Nights Watch and Stannis, say they killed 20,000. I doubt it was that many but maybe. Then maybe 5000 bolted and Jon took 5000. So 70,000 men defended Hard Home. They died. So captain Ice Cock picked up 70,000 dudes in addition to the survives of the attacking force. Which was probably significant because the battle was short.

So at minimum Ice Cock has a 75,000 man army. An army of mother****ers that pretty much has to be shredded to die. Arrows to the face? Meh. Hack their arms off? No ****s given.

That's huge.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Ah. Forgot about the doom conversation. Do you suppose it Will come out that it was the white walkers?

Not likely. Valyria is on a different continent, and is pretty far south. Unlike what was shown in the show, Valyria is supposed to be inhabited by demons (the area with the greyscale-infected is entirely different). No one has been to Valyria since the doom and lived.

[Sandy Vagina]

pretty good map I look at from time to time.. can click on to zoom.

http://gameofthrones.net/images/West...eros-essos.jpg

Valyria is the center island far south. Jorah and Tyrion were sailing east from Volantis... to the Smoking Sea.. to avoid pirates in the Gulf of Grief.

[Beef Supreme]

Originally Posted by temper11

My first thought was that the food he brought Sam would be poisoned, since Sam is such a big supporter of Jon. Just the way he offered it, and the way Sam received it, seemed significantly ominous somehow. Or it could just be that this show is so freaking backhanded all the time, I'm paranoid and looking for threats everywhere.

Good show.

I was thinking the same. How can anyone watch this show and NOT be paranoid of everyone's motives?

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

They call it the Doom. As far as I know, it was just some unexplained disaster. I've read that Valyria was situated near a volcano so perhaps that was it. They were also a pretty advanced society so maybe it was something to do with their magic/technology.

All of the people with greyscale in the ruins today were sent there from elsewhere.

Yeah, I always assumed it did a Vasuvius, though that isn't explicitly stated.

In fact, you can easily think of Westeros as England, the rest of the known world as Europe, and note that Valyria (which once ruled most of the known world, and the Southern half of England up to the Wall (though not Hadrian's Wall, coughcough) is located roughly where Italy is, though it's an island just south of Italy, or somewhat more like Sicily.

That doesn't hold for everything, of course. The Dothraki aren't like anything that were in Europe, except when the Mongols crushed Hungary, but still, in general terms...

[wazu]

I just watched this week's episode for the third time. Addiction.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by wazu

I just watched this week's episode for the third time. Addiction.

Yea. I watched it again immediately after watching it for the first time. It was possibly the best episode in the series. Though I did watch episode 7 twice, for different reasons...

[frankotank]

Originally Posted by wazu

A great episode. But why weren't they paddling like hell at the end?

yes!
AND...I cracked up when the giant came strolling by the boat....I thought he was gonna grab the front and drag them along. nope...just moving right along. good luck! hahahaha

[Hawk]

I think maybe everyone in the boat was stunned and mesmerized into inaction, because otherwise, yeah, paddle like hell you morons! And I too though Wun Wun should give them a pull, but nope, every giant for himself!

Not sure on the army size issue. In the books, only a portion of the scattered wildlings army wound up at Hardhome, so it was not the full remnant of the army Mance had built. They were too disparate a group, so they scattered different directions to a large extent once Mance died.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Hawk

I think maybe everyone in the boat was stunned and mesmerized into inaction, because otherwise, yeah, paddle like hell you morons! And I too though Wun Wun should give them a pull, but nope, every giant for himself!

Not sure on the army size issue. In the books, only a portion of the scattered wildlings army wound up at Hardhome, so it was not the full remnant of the army Mance had built. They were too disparate a group, so they scattered different directions to a large extent once Mance died.

From the wide angle views it looked like a ****ass ton of humanity.

Even if it is 50,000, that's a huge Number. And as freaking gnarly as they are it's hard to imagine they wouldn't just climb over the wall and rape faces.

[BigRichard]

This dumbass was an editor on Got show

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articl...n-south-africa

[mdchiefsfan]

just saw this on Pandora