Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 420

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

**Bowser** · 06-25-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman

Did Jeff Montgomery seriously say they can't afford to lose Humberto Quintero this early in the ballgame?

Yes he did. Yes, he did.

**gblowfish** · 06-25-2013, 11:36 AM

The only reason Ned got hot in that game was because we were playing Milwaukee, the team that canned him. He actually gave a rat's ass in that series.

WhawhaWhat · 06-25-2013, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin

Just 'cause we haven't seen it in a while....

you know....Ned coming to the defense of his players (during games)

I saw this one linked too. Right when Frenchy is about to draw the line in the dirt, you can see the ump saying "Don't! Don't!.." Frenchy draws the line. "Don't do that bullshit!" and the ump tosses him. I think I remember Frenchy saying after the game he knew he wasn't supposed to do that.

Sure-Oz · 06-25-2013, 01:58 PM

Royals send Herrera down call up Will Smith.

kcchiefsus · 06-25-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Royals send Herrera down call up Will Smith.

Thank God, Herrera ****ing sucks.

**LoneWolf** · 06-25-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Royals send Herrera down call up Will Smith.

Well, it is Summer, Summer, Summertime.

WhawhaWhat · 06-25-2013, 02:04 PM

#Royals vs. ATL RHP Medlen: Gordon 7, Escobar 6, Hosmer 3, Butler DH, Perez 2, Moustakas 5, Lough 9, Johnson 4, Dyson 8 and Santana 1

CaliforniaChief · 06-25-2013, 02:05 PM

I wish they would have called Giavotella up.

sedated · 06-25-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

#Royals vs. ATL RHP Medlen: Gordon 7, Escobar 6, Hosmer 3, Butler DH, Perez 2, Moustakas 5, Lough 9, Johnson 4, Dyson 8 and Santana 1

Why the F! is Escobar still batting 2nd? Its thoroughly baffling.

and Moose (.207) ahead of Lough (.299) doesn't make much sense either.

**LoneWolf** · 06-25-2013, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated

Why the F! is Escobar still batting 2nd? Its thoroughly baffling.

and Moose (.207) ahead of Lough (.299) doesn't make much sense either.

Moose has been much better the last handful of games. Maybe Ned is thinking that he is finally figured it out. I would rather see Lough and Escobar switched.

Mama Hip Rockets · 06-25-2013, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Royals send Herrera down call up Will Smith.

I don't know what happened to Herrera this year. He was great last year and for the first couple of weeks this year.

I was rooting for him, but sending him down is the right move at this point (although I'm not sure bringing up Will Smith is the right move).

GloryDayz · 06-25-2013, 02:58 PM

Umps crack me the **** up. Other than weathermen, and judges (and maybe a select few others) they have the best jobs in the world - you don't ever have to be right and many will come to your defense. One can only hope this is the last year that MLB baseball has to endure umpires that aren't at least second-guessed with the use of electronics to some degree. I say let them either work it by a set number of reviews by team, and an unlimited number "from the booth". I don't care how long the game takes. I have 15 more minutes for well-officiated games! Both ways!

ShowtimeSBMVP · 06-25-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman

I don't know what happened to Herrera this year. He was great last year and for the first couple of weeks this year.

I was rooting for him, but sending him down is the right move at this point (although I'm not sure bringing up Will Smith is the right move).

The WBC is what happened. Herrera, Rodney and Strop all look like crap this year.

Ceej · 06-25-2013, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thurman merman

I don't know what happened to Herrera this year. He was great last year and for the first couple of weeks this year.

I was rooting for him, but sending him down is the right move at this point (although I'm not sure bringing up Will Smith is the right move).

He hasn't thrown his changeup much this year.

Last year that thing was devastating.

**chefsos** · 06-25-2013, 03:41 PM

Wait...you guys play two series with Atlanta this year? Do you get all the other NL East teams?

Damn. Just read up on it. The Braves have never been to KC before. I've wondered if there was an interleague matchup that hadn't happened yet.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1840308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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