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Old 03-17-2017, 07:55 PM  
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How has God wired you spiritually? What is your spiritual gift/gifts?

When a person comes to Christ, that person receives a spiritual gift and most receive several spiritual gifts through the Power of the Holy Spirit that now inhabits their soul. For a list of those spiritual gifts you can read I Cor. 12 and Romans 12. However, using your spiritual gifts is very much like physical exercise. You need to practice and serve at all times in your gifts so that the Holy Spirit can build up your soul spiritually so that you may be bold in living and serving in your faith. But if you avoid serving with the spiritual gifts Jesus gave you then you will spiritually atrophy. You won't lose your gifts but you will be ineffective in your faith. Paul encourages Timothy to fan into flame the power of the Holy Spirit to use his spiritual gifts and not to be timid. Because the more you use your gifts the more the Power of God is revealed through YOU !!!

Here is the 5th talk by Pastor Jeff in the series called "The Power of the Gospel" and this talk is labeled "Powering Forward"!! Pastor Jeff a talented speaker and teacher of the Bible in this video sermon/audio only if you choose gives much encouragement, joy and hope to both Christians and unbelievers. To discover and develop their spiritual gifts through the person of Jesus Christ. For those of you who have not heard him speak he is truly one of the most authentic, genuine, straight from the heart, pull no punches, tells it like it is, gifted speaker of the Gospel that I have heard in a long time and have met. He is the 'real deal' and your time will not be wasted listening to him.

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Old 03-20-2017, 04:35 PM   #256
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Better yet CS what crime could one of your children commit that you personally would find it just to lock them in your basement and torture them?

And don't use not believing in you, that one is taken.
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:36 PM
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:36 PM   #257
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Well, slavery in this context:

It was common in biblical times for a person to sell themselves to slavery to pay debts when they didn't have any other kind of collateral.

For example: I owe you; I have nothing to pay you, so I work for you.
Isn't that indentured servitude rather than slavery?
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:45 PM   #258
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Meanwhile, 29 million people are enslaved, but you don't care about that..you'd rather focus on "slavery" thousands of years ago from a book you claim to be false.

This isn't about slavery for you, it's about rejecting God.
What are we supposed to do exactly? Go to war with nations that practice slavery? We're going to have to be really, really careful even considering doing that. Maybe form an international coalition with other nations to combat slavery? That's more doable but still a questionable decision. Maybe issue something like a letter of marque to mercenaries to fight slavery worldwide? That's just pretending to keep our hands clean while we hire someone else to do the killing for us, like shopping for hamburger instead of hunting for meat. It is an incredibly problematic proposition. But, meanwhile, I don't condone it-now or in in the past.
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:53 PM   #259
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Isn't that indentured servitude rather than slavery?
It is.

The answer was a disingenuous sidestep.

There are literally hundreds of misguided, vile, and contradictory verses in the bible. There are some beautiful and profound passages too.

For one thing, the selection of books and omission of others makes it a questionable source of its infallibility because it was the composition of numerous parties, and like all men, flawed by nature even if it is an account of the divine.

Which is why literalists convolute and try to explain away portions of which there are no defense for.

Yet it provides all the cover needed to pass judgement by equating verses as concrete evidence to render their beliefs as final authority.
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:55 PM   #260
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How has God wired me spiritually?

Apparently he forgot to. Or misread the diagram.
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:56 PM   #261
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Better yet CS what crime could one of your children commit that you personally would find it just to lock him in your basement and torture them?

And don't use no believing in you, that one is taken.
Careful Dave. Remember, this thread is a safe space for religiosnowflakes. You're upsetting folks.
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:59 PM   #262
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Careful Dave. Remember, this thread is a safe space for religiosnowflakes. You're upsetting folks.
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Old 03-20-2017, 05:09 PM   #263
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Careful Dave. Remember, this thread is a safe space for religiosnowflakes. You're upsetting folks.
How many little kids could you torture to death before becoming bored with it, Bill?

Just one, or would it take a whole room full to sate your deviance?
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Old 03-20-2017, 05:10 PM   #264
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Better yet CS what crime could one of your children commit that you personally would find it just to lock him in your basement and torture them?

And don't use no believing in you, that one is taken.
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Old 03-20-2017, 05:56 PM   #265
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How many little kids could you torture to death before becoming bored with it, Bill?

Just one, or would it take a whole room full to sate your deviance?
It's words Scotty. I know Dave isn't serious. So it doesn't bother me. That it causes you to erupt is telling.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:04 PM   #267
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How many little kids could you torture to death before becoming bored with it, Bill?

Just one, or would it take a whole room full to sate your deviance?
So in the above scenario, William would be several orders of magnitude better than either jeebus or god. He would have to up that torture mark to maybe 7-8 billion in the last 2000 years. If the bible is true, Yahweh is a monster. There is no denying it.
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Should gays be killed? What about disobedient children?
Lest you think I come in jest;

What the Bible says about Children

Children who refuse to obey their parents must be executed.

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21

He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. -- Exodus 21:15

He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17
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It is.

The answer was a disingenuous sidestep.

There are literally hundreds of misguided, vile, and contradictory verses in the bible. There are some beautiful and profound passages too.

For one thing, the selection of books and omission of others makes it a questionable source of its infallibility because it was the composition of numerous parties, and like all men, flawed by nature even if it is an account of the divine.

Which is why literalists convolute and try to explain away portions of which there are no defense for.

Yet it provides all the cover needed to pass judgement by equating verses as concrete evidence to render their beliefs as final authority.
There really is a lot of crazy misguided stories in the "Good Book".



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While he was walking along, a group of 42 young boys started to make fun of Elisha's bald head.
And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. 2 Kings 2:23
So Elisha decided to try his new-found prophet powers by cursing the little buggers in the name of the Lord. Then he stood back and watched what happened.
And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. 2 Kings 2:24a
What happened must have been hard for him to watch. Two she bears came out of the woods and tore all 42 of the boys apart.

And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. 2 Kings 2:24b

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