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Let's track all the shit that is and will be Kermit Anderson's second season at the helm of Mizzou's basketball program.
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PowerMizzou homers rushing to Kermit's defense is rather amusing.
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For the lulz, could you screengrab one of the funnier apologies duncan?
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Old 07-15-2015, 02:23 PM   #48
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For the lulz, could you screengrab one of the funnier apologies duncan?
That's more work than it probably is worth... but some highlights:

1) Better off without J3/Gill-Caesar. THEY WEREN'T GOOD, ANYWAY!
2) Kim Anderson is building things the right way! (Discipline, try hard, hs recruits, etc)
3) This is all Haith's fault!
4) Have to give Kermit 3-4 years no matter what!
5) Kim's 2015 recruiting class is the best in years according to Rivals! (Erroneous).
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Mike Alden hiring Kim Anderson as a FU on the way out has to be one of the biggest troll jobs ever accomplished...the fact at how it was paraded around as a legit good hire and the boosters went for it is still mind boggling.

I think one day the entire story will be told...there's no doubt in my mind we could've got a really good BB coach, just think Alden didn't give a shit any more.
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Between cutting my teaching load in half and taking courses full time I can barely afford my own sock lint right now.

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That's more work than it probably is worth... but some highlights:

1) Better off without J3/Gill-Caesar. THEY WEREN'T GOOD, ANYWAY!
2) Kim Anderson is building things the right way! (Discipline, try hard, hs recruits, etc)
3) This is all Haith's fault!
4) Have to give Kermit 3-4 years no matter what!
5) Kim's 2015 recruiting class is the best in years according to Rivals! (Erroneous).
It's like paying whack-a-mole over there. No matter how many factual inccuracies you point out, you can never keep up.
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Mike Alden hiring Kim Anderson as a FU on the way out has to be one of the biggest troll jobs ever accomplished...the fact at how it was paraded around as a legit good hire and the boosters went for it is still mind boggling.

I think one day the entire story will be told...there's no doubt in my mind we could've got a really good BB coach, just think Alden didn't give a shit any more.
I imagine he was fairly thoroughly cuffed by his own past and the stupidity of the boosters.
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Mike Alden hiring Kim Anderson as a FU on the way out has to be one of the biggest troll jobs ever accomplished...the fact at how it was paraded around as a legit good hire and the boosters went for it is still mind boggling.

I think one day the entire story will be told...there's no doubt in my mind we could've got a really good BB coach, just think Alden didn't give a shit any more.
I don't think it's that entertaining. Alden was told he could hire Gregg Marshall if he would come to Columbia. Otherwise he was hiring Kim Anderson because TRUESON and D2 NATIONAL TITLE and NORM and BLUE HAIR BOOSTERS and MIDDLETON.
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I don't think it's that entertaining. Alden was told he could hire Gregg Marshall if he would come to Columbia. Otherwise he was hiring Kim Anderson because TRUESON and D2 NATIONAL TITLE and NORM and BLUE HAIR BOOSTERS and MIDDLETON.
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oh, and there's this... I talked to a friend of mine today who covers college basketball for a national publication and works regularly with a prominent college basketball reporter.

Said reporter can't talk about Kim Anderson without laughing, because of what a joke the hire was from the start, and what a disaster it is. Can't believe anyone associated with D1 basketball in any way thought it had a chance of working.

So when they shitcan this guy, at least we don't have to worry about national outrage about not giving him a chance...
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Every time I think or read about this program, I can't help but LOL. I could get mad about it I suppose, but my TSF payment isn't nearly big enough to rate that. Here's another article about the shit show in CoMO.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/colum...5e8a5a582.html

Strauss: At Mizzou, world of basketball keeps churning

Well, no one can classify this one as a Haith crime.
A Missouri basketball program increasingly seen in a state of perpetual flux confirmed on Wednesday that sophomore small forward Montaque ďTekiĒ Gill-Caesar was leaving the team to seek a transfer.

Itís getting to a point in CoMo where you canít tell the players without a bus ticket.

Whether Gill-Caesar jumped or received a push from second-year head coach Kim Anderson remains unclear. Anderson called the decision ďmutualĒ in a statement released by the basketball office. A Canadian talent once recruited by Michigan State and Kentucky said he wanted to pursue a more ďcomfortableĒ situation. Gill-Caesarís mother used the same description in an interview with the Missourian.

Transfers happen, especially in an era of instant gratification. Three months ago Mike Krzyzewski won a fifth national title after Duke embraced the one-and-done movement. Itís common for players to follow a coach out the door.

The Gill-Caesar move is different. Players typically transfer well before July. The Tigersí leading scorer and rebounder, Johnathan Williams III, reminded us of that when he opted to bolt in March, before Duke had even cut down the nets at the Final Four.

Williams, a holdover from Frank Haithís last Missouri team, enjoyed a positive relationship with Anderson but cited poor chemistry with teammates as influencing his decision. He transferred to perennial power Gonzaga.

Anderson secured Gill-Caesar last August as the last piece to his first Division I recruiting class. Assistant Rob Fulford served as a conduit, having coached Gill-Caesar in his final season at Huntington (W. Va.) Prep. Yet Fulfordís presence apparently failed to solve any disconnect between Anderson and a four-star recruit who averaged 9.1 points and 3.0 rebounds as a freshman.

Minus Williams, Gill-Caesar projected as the Tigersí leading returning scorer.

Minus Gill-Caesar, it is increasingly difficult to discern who represents the core of Andersonís second Mizzou team, a unit that needs to show significant improvement over last seasonís 9-23 debacle.

No one suggested Andersonís rebuild of a program damaged by discipline issues, inconsistent recruiting and an overall lack of continuity would be easy. Few, however, envisioned a process as painful as this, especially within a hoops conference perceived as a step down from the Big 12.

There are new sheriffs in town. Chancellor R. Bowen Loftin is more engaged, more public and more a sports maven than his predecessor. Athletics director Mack Rhoades so far has shown himself willing to address rather than shrink from issues.

Anderson was hired under Mike Aldenís watch as a response to true sons who had exhausted patience with Haith. The initial narrative suggested that Andersonís popularity and longstanding ties to the university would mitigate any shakedown cruise. It was a valid stance to adopt at the time, but two factors intruded. The Tigers were downright brutal and the conferenceís coaching landscape has since changed dramatically. Auburn hired Bruce Pearl. Alabama lured former NBA coach Avery Johnson. Rick Barnes is the latest name to walk through Tennesseeís coaching turnstile. Ben Howland makes Mississippi State relevant.

A year into Andersonís regime, transfers and discipline issues wonít let go. Thereís no question Coach Kim is trying to enact a culture change within his program, even if it comes at the expense of an occasional win. Heís taking the long view in a profession more and more governed by short-term thinking. One wonders if the stance could be both commendable and dangerous within a shifting political climate on campus.

Hardly a throwaway talent, Gill-Caesar ranked as the cherry atop Andersonís first recruiting class. He possessed a physical game rarely found within last seasonís roster. He also served a two-game suspension for violating team rules.

Gill-Caesar has been slow to recover from a back injury suffered on a flagrant foul during last Decemberís game against Illinois. The condition reportedly prevented him from playing on Canadaís Under-19 squad in the FIBA world championships. One assumes, if healthy, Gill-Caesar would likewise have been a pivotal figure on Mizzouís 2015-16 team, which now relies on junior guard Wes Clark, four remaining members of the í14 recruiting class, Atlanta point guard Terrence Phillips, senior Ryan Rosburg and two juco transfers. For a second straight season Mizzouís offense will be a mystery.

The Tigers hardly operate from an elevated baseline: Last seasonís act ranked 321st nationally in scoring, 307th in field goal percentage and no better than 200th in rebounds, scoring defense, blocks and steals.

Avoiding a Wednesday play-in game at the SEC tournament represents a legitimate goal. That will require more than doubling last winterís three league wins.

To be sure, Haithís defection from Missouri to Tulsa was less than artful. Then AD Mike Alden didnít see enough progress to roll over Haithís contract. Haith saw the defection of scoring leader Jordan Clarkson to the NBA as an indicator of a difficult 2014-15. A smaller school with lots of cash suddenly looked appealing.

The transition is still unwinding. In itself, losing Gill-Caesar is less than catastrophic. Connected to the arrests, the suspensions and the rudderless on-court play that has typified the program before and after Andersonís arrival, it is certainly enough to give one pause.
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Greg Marshall and Ben Howland were available.

But Alden gave what the dumbass boosters wanted.

Well, you're gonna get what you asked for.
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Every time I think or read about this program, I can't help but LOL. I could get mad about it I suppose, but my TSF payment isn't nearly big enough to rate that. Here's another article about the shit show in CoMO.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/colum...5e8a5a582.html

Strauss: At Mizzou, world of basketball keeps churning

Well, no one can classify this one as a Haith crime.
A Missouri basketball program increasingly seen in a state of perpetual flux confirmed on Wednesday that sophomore small forward Montaque ďTekiĒ Gill-Caesar was leaving the team to seek a transfer.

Itís getting to a point in CoMo where you canít tell the players without a bus ticket.

Whether Gill-Caesar jumped or received a push from second-year head coach Kim Anderson remains unclear. Anderson called the decision ďmutualĒ in a statement released by the basketball office. A Canadian talent once recruited by Michigan State and Kentucky said he wanted to pursue a more ďcomfortableĒ situation. Gill-Caesarís mother used the same description in an interview with the Missourian.

Transfers happen, especially in an era of instant gratification. Three months ago Mike Krzyzewski won a fifth national title after Duke embraced the one-and-done movement. Itís common for players to follow a coach out the door.

The Gill-Caesar move is different. Players typically transfer well before July. The Tigersí leading scorer and rebounder, Johnathan Williams III, reminded us of that when he opted to bolt in March, before Duke had even cut down the nets at the Final Four.

Williams, a holdover from Frank Haithís last Missouri team, enjoyed a positive relationship with Anderson but cited poor chemistry with teammates as influencing his decision. He transferred to perennial power Gonzaga.

Anderson secured Gill-Caesar last August as the last piece to his first Division I recruiting class. Assistant Rob Fulford served as a conduit, having coached Gill-Caesar in his final season at Huntington (W. Va.) Prep. Yet Fulfordís presence apparently failed to solve any disconnect between Anderson and a four-star recruit who averaged 9.1 points and 3.0 rebounds as a freshman.

Minus Williams, Gill-Caesar projected as the Tigersí leading returning scorer.

Minus Gill-Caesar, it is increasingly difficult to discern who represents the core of Andersonís second Mizzou team, a unit that needs to show significant improvement over last seasonís 9-23 debacle.

No one suggested Andersonís rebuild of a program damaged by discipline issues, inconsistent recruiting and an overall lack of continuity would be easy. Few, however, envisioned a process as painful as this, especially within a hoops conference perceived as a step down from the Big 12.

There are new sheriffs in town. Chancellor R. Bowen Loftin is more engaged, more public and more a sports maven than his predecessor. Athletics director Mack Rhoades so far has shown himself willing to address rather than shrink from issues.

Anderson was hired under Mike Aldenís watch as a response to true sons who had exhausted patience with Haith. The initial narrative suggested that Andersonís popularity and longstanding ties to the university would mitigate any shakedown cruise. It was a valid stance to adopt at the time, but two factors intruded. The Tigers were downright brutal and the conferenceís coaching landscape has since changed dramatically. Auburn hired Bruce Pearl. Alabama lured former NBA coach Avery Johnson. Rick Barnes is the latest name to walk through Tennesseeís coaching turnstile. Ben Howland makes Mississippi State relevant.

A year into Andersonís regime, transfers and discipline issues wonít let go. Thereís no question Coach Kim is trying to enact a culture change within his program, even if it comes at the expense of an occasional win. Heís taking the long view in a profession more and more governed by short-term thinking. One wonders if the stance could be both commendable and dangerous within a shifting political climate on campus.

Hardly a throwaway talent, Gill-Caesar ranked as the cherry atop Andersonís first recruiting class. He possessed a physical game rarely found within last seasonís roster. He also served a two-game suspension for violating team rules.

Gill-Caesar has been slow to recover from a back injury suffered on a flagrant foul during last Decemberís game against Illinois. The condition reportedly prevented him from playing on Canadaís Under-19 squad in the FIBA world championships. One assumes, if healthy, Gill-Caesar would likewise have been a pivotal figure on Mizzouís 2015-16 team, which now relies on junior guard Wes Clark, four remaining members of the í14 recruiting class, Atlanta point guard Terrence Phillips, senior Ryan Rosburg and two juco transfers. For a second straight season Mizzouís offense will be a mystery.

The Tigers hardly operate from an elevated baseline: Last seasonís act ranked 321st nationally in scoring, 307th in field goal percentage and no better than 200th in rebounds, scoring defense, blocks and steals.

Avoiding a Wednesday play-in game at the SEC tournament represents a legitimate goal. That will require more than doubling last winterís three league wins.

To be sure, Haithís defection from Missouri to Tulsa was less than artful. Then AD Mike Alden didnít see enough progress to roll over Haithís contract. Haith saw the defection of scoring leader Jordan Clarkson to the NBA as an indicator of a difficult 2014-15. A smaller school with lots of cash suddenly looked appealing.

The transition is still unwinding. In itself, losing Gill-Caesar is less than catastrophic. Connected to the arrests, the suspensions and the rudderless on-court play that has typified the program before and after Andersonís arrival, it is certainly enough to give one pause.
The best thing about this article is the Comments section. There's one from someone in there who has talked to a high D1 recruit (he says), who laughs when asked about Mizzou and whose father has told Mizzou to stop calling them.

Just awesome.
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The best thing about this article is the Comments section. There's one from someone in there who has talked to a high D1 recruit (he says), who laughs when asked about Mizzou and whose father has told Mizzou to stop calling them.

Just awesome.
If true that's equal parts awesome/sad. Lol.
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Greg Marshall and Ben Howland were available.

But Alden gave what the dumbass boosters wanted.

Well, you're gonna get what you asked for.
I'm picturing old rich blue hairs totally confused as to why the second coming of Norm Stewart isn't working out.
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