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Old 03-17-2017, 11:11 AM  
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Are We Looking at the Chiefs QB Situation Incorrectly

First of all, let me say that I hate being the guy bringing this up, BUT I fear that we're all looking at our QBOTF issue incorrectly. Sadly, the question isn't about which QB we should draft, but rather (and I hate me for suggesting this), what veteran QB will be available in the next 2-3 years to replace Alex?

I'm basing this solely on our stinking franchise DNA. If true to form, the odds of DRAFTING a QB that has a decent chance to evolve into being The Guy are virtually zero. So, we're left to figure out what veteran guy will be available as a replacement for Smith.

Yeah, I know this sucks, but the facts of the matter are that the Chiefs simply do not expend high draft picks on QBs......at least not for the past 34 stinking years.

Ergo, the question isn't about drafting Mahomes, Watson, Webb, Trubisky, etc., the question is whether we go after a vet QB like Cousins, Kaepernick, etc. (I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.)

Man, when you look at it from this angle, the prospects of finding a vet QB who could take us to the Promised Land appear staggeringly horrible.

One only hopes that somehow, someway, we are able to shed our heritage and try a "new" approach in addressing our QB position...can you say "Expend a high draft choice for an untried, unproven but oh so exciting QB prospect."

Hope springs eternal......
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Old 03-17-2017, 03:55 PM   #31
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we shouldve been looking at QB years ago...drafting a QB and having him sit behind alex for a couple years wouldve been optimal.....

my god if we don't pull the trigger this season, then **** this organization

we have 10 draft picks....

lets go all ****ing in if theres a QBOTF anywhere...hell give next years 1st too if needed.

Or draft a fatty..**** it...
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Old 03-17-2017, 03:56 PM   #32
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Old 03-17-2017, 03:59 PM   #33
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First of all, let me say that I hate being the guy bringing this up, BUT I fear that we're all looking at our QBOTF issue incorrectly. Sadly, the question isn't about which QB we should draft, but rather (and I hate me for suggesting this), what veteran QB will be available in the next 2-3 years to replace Alex?

I'm basing this solely on our stinking franchise DNA. If true to form, the odds of DRAFTING a QB that has a decent chance to evolve into being The Guy are virtually zero. So, we're left to figure out what veteran guy will be available as a replacement for Smith.

Yeah, I know this sucks, but the facts of the matter are that the Chiefs simply do not expend high draft picks on QBs......at least not for the past 34 stinking years.

Ergo, the question isn't about drafting Mahomes, Watson, Webb, Trubisky, etc., the question is whether we go after a vet QB like Cousins, Kaepernick, etc. (I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.)

Man, when you look at it from this angle, the prospects of finding a vet QB who could take us to the Promised Land appear staggeringly horrible.

One only hopes that somehow, someway, we are able to shed our heritage and try a "new" approach in addressing our QB position...can you say "Expend a high draft choice for an untried, unproven but oh so exciting QB prospect."

Hope springs eternal......
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Stop addressing the symptoms and start dealing with the disease.


It's not about Alex, it's about Andy and Hunt.

I leave Dorsey out because we all know that it was Reid that wanted Smith. It was leaked before Dorsey even got here.

This is about whether Reid wants to deal with a rookie QB at all.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:04 PM   #34
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This year's draft points towards another grab round 3 or later.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:09 PM   #35
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Stop addressing the symptoms and start dealing with the disease.


It's not about Alex, it's about Andy and Hunt.

I leave Dorsey out because we all know that it was Reid that wanted Smith. It was leaked before Dorsey even got here.

This is about whether Reid wants to deal with a rookie QB at all.
That is my biggest fear and sadly I think its true. He was young when he drafted mcnabb I don't think he has the patience to develop a rookie anymore.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:09 PM   #36
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I don't buy into this "Franchise DNA" stuff. Previous regimes are dead and gone. The current regime really only missed on Carr. I believe if they see a guy who they feel good about and can make it happen they will.
The franchise DNA is whichever correct combination of adenosine, thymine, guanine and cytosize correlates closest with Lamar Hunt's.

And yes. The aversion to drafting QBs correlates 100% with that DNA.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:17 PM   #37
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The franchise DNA is whichever correct combination of adenosine, thymine, guanine and cytosize correlates closest with Lamar Hunt's.

And yes. The aversion to drafting QBs correlates 100% with that DNA.

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Old 03-17-2017, 04:17 PM   #38
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I don't think he has the patience to develop a rookie anymore.
Then why does he keep bringing in rookies?

Bray
Murray
Hogan

Joel Stave only has a year in the league, so he counts as a developmental guy.

....not far removed from drafting and "developing" Foles either.

I don't subscribe to the line of thinking that Reid/Dorsey are adverse to picking up a young QB. Guys like Bray, Murray and Hogan all have/had the tools you'd want in a developmental Qb....they just simply haven't developed.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:24 PM   #39
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That is my biggest fear and sadly I think its true. He was young when he drafted mcnabb I don't think he has the patience to develop a rookie anymore.
I agree 100%

He has been half-assing our development of a young QB from the start.

McNabb annoyed the shit out of Reid with all his improvisation and gun-slinging. Part of the reason why Reid was willing to trade him within the division.

Bray is the only guy left on the roster and that's only because he got hurt so often that the Chiefs didn't have to do much to keep him. Guys like Hogan and Murray got limited preseason snaps and were sent packing as soon as the Chiefs needed the roster spot.

We have signed a veteran backup to be our #2 every year that Reid has been here.

This is about Hunt and Reid.

Who knows, maybe Reid told Hunt that he would prefer going with a veteran QB during his job interview with Hunt. Maybe that's part of the reason why Hunt hired him.

No doubt in my mind that Dorsey would already have a talented, young guy on the roster IF Reid really wanted one.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:27 PM   #40
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Then why does he keep bringing in rookies?

Bray
Murray
Hogan

Joel Stave only has a year in the league, so he counts as a developmental guy.

....not far removed from drafting and "developing" Foles either.

I don't subscribe to the line of thinking that Reid/Dorsey are adverse to picking up a young QB. Guys like Bray, Murray and Hogan all have/had the

tools you'd want in a developmental Qb....they just simply haven't developed.
Bray - UDFA
Murray - 5th rd
Hogan - 5th rd

low-cost pickups and IMO we would have traded them for draft picks if they had shown anything. I don't believe that Reid planned on replacing Smith with any of them.
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No, 'we' aren't.....we need to draft a QB . No more retreads please..unless you want 40 more years of ringless seasons.
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Bray - UDFA
Murray - 5th rd
Hogan - 5th rd

low-cost pickups and IMO we would have traded them for draft picks if they had shown anything. I don't believe that Reid planned on replacing Smith with any of them.
I blame Hunt more than anyone...

But I admit, some of the points you've made in this topic is making me sour a bit more on Reid.
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