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Old 03-17-2017, 11:11 AM  
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Are We Looking at the Chiefs QB Situation Incorrectly

First of all, let me say that I hate being the guy bringing this up, BUT I fear that we're all looking at our QBOTF issue incorrectly. Sadly, the question isn't about which QB we should draft, but rather (and I hate me for suggesting this), what veteran QB will be available in the next 2-3 years to replace Alex?

I'm basing this solely on our stinking franchise DNA. If true to form, the odds of DRAFTING a QB that has a decent chance to evolve into being The Guy are virtually zero. So, we're left to figure out what veteran guy will be available as a replacement for Smith.

Yeah, I know this sucks, but the facts of the matter are that the Chiefs simply do not expend high draft picks on QBs......at least not for the past 34 stinking years.

Ergo, the question isn't about drafting Mahomes, Watson, Webb, Trubisky, etc., the question is whether we go after a vet QB like Cousins, Kaepernick, etc. (I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.)

Man, when you look at it from this angle, the prospects of finding a vet QB who could take us to the Promised Land appear staggeringly horrible.

One only hopes that somehow, someway, we are able to shed our heritage and try a "new" approach in addressing our QB position...can you say "Expend a high draft choice for an untried, unproven but oh so exciting QB prospect."

Hope springs eternal......
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:32 AM   #106
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Seriously?

You think there's no one that thinks Alex Smith can lead us to a super bowl on this board?
I mean, I think it's POSSIBLE to win a Super Bowl with Alex Smith as your QB. I think any rational person can look at dudes who have won Super Bowls in the past and agree that if Alex Smith ever wins a Super Bowl, it won't exactly be the most stunning thing the league has ever seen.

The real question is, "Is it a good idea to take a QB like Alex Smith and hope the talent around him is good enough to drag him kicking and screaming to a championship?"

I think the overwhelming answer on this board is "no," and the number of people who think it's a solid strategy probably want something better, but they're under the impression that there is nothing the Chiefs could have done from 2013 - 2016 to alter or change that.

Those are the same folks still claiming that Derek Carr has already peaked and will be nothing more than Jay Cutler for the rest of his career.
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:34 AM   #107
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Let's face up to facts. Smith is the guy for 2017, end of discussion. We're not going after Romo or any other vet QB out there. The fact that Smith and Bray are the only 2 QBs on the roster (not counting the PS) speaks volumes to me. This year's QB class is weak, most of them would be Day 2 picks if they weren't in short supply. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see us invest a #2 or 3 in Webb or Peterman and let them fight it out with Bray. At least we'd have a full year to see what we have.
Another thought would be to trade some of this year's picks for next year ones. I believe I'd like to have 11 picks next year than this year. Then you'd have ammo to trade for that guy if Bray or the rookie bomb.
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:35 AM   #108
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Jason's rage is building at the mere mention of Alex Smith and anyone not for castrating him.


Are you ok? Have you fallen and bumped your head lately?
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:36 AM   #109
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Yes, every draft pick is about potential. Looking at next year is even harder but it's also much less expensive.

Whenever someone says 'potential' about a QB they get beaten down and labeled a coward for even suggesting any QB in the draft might not be good.

So now you are afraid of taking a chance to get a QB?

Be careful or you will get thrown out of Group A.
That's not the potential I'm talking about.

They are all potentially going to be in the draft.

There are several that might not be, in fact.


Seriously are you ok?
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:39 AM   #110
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A mod trolling the team's quarterback who gets us wins. What is happening to this place
Have you looked at the tos? We are posters first. I'm free to say how I feel about any player on this team.

I believe we have peaked with Alex Smith as our qb. Could I be wrong? Absolutely.
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:41 AM   #111
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Whenever someone says 'potential' about a QB they get beaten down and labeled a coward for even suggesting any QB in the draft might not be good.
Again, that is bullshit.

The majority of the board didn't like:

Josh Freeman
Mark Sanchez
Tim Tebow
Sam Bradford
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weedon

And when you get down to the Johnny Manziel stuff, it's not as simple as, "People thought Manziel was a good QB." A lot of people were pissed because Dorsey didn't draft Teddy Bridgewater, not Manziel. A lot of people were pissed because Dee Ford was the pick. A lot of people were just ****ing sick and tired of seeing teams leapfrog us in the draft to take QBs and were frustrated that it happened yet again.

That's a lot of QB busts that CP has rightly called and identified. And all but Sam Bradford were options available to them through trade-ups, and were considered distinct possibilities for us on draft day.
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:44 AM   #112
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:45 AM   #113
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Have you looked at the tos? We are posters first. I'm free to say how I feel about any player on this team.

I believe we have peaked with Alex Smith as our qb. Could I be wrong? Absolutely.
If only double standards existed on here
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:46 AM   #114
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:49 AM   #115
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Let's face up to facts. Smith is the guy for 2017, end of discussion. We're not going after Romo or any other vet QB out there. The fact that Smith and Bray are the only 2 QBs on the roster (not counting the PS) speaks volumes to me. This year's QB class is weak, most of them would be Day 2 picks if they weren't in short supply. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see us invest a #2 or 3 in Webb or Peterman and let them fight it out with Bray. At least we'd have a full year to see what we have.
Another thought would be to trade some of this year's picks for next year ones. I believe I'd like to have 11 picks next year than this year. Then you'd have ammo to trade for that guy if Bray or the rookie bomb.
Very good, sensible post.

Would be very interesting if they could turn pick 59 into a 2018 1st.
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I would gladly trade out of this year's round 1 and give up another pick to have a top pick for next year's draft
And then watch as another team gives a 1st and a 2nd in 2018 and then 2019 and 2020 first round picks to trade up for a QB.

Great ****ing plan there, slick.
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And then watch as another team gives a 1st and a 2nd in 2018 and then 2019 and 2020 first round picks to trade up for a QB.

Great ****ing plan there, slick.
Don't let your disdain for tigger cloud your mind.
We would have 2 1st rounders in 2018 instead of just one giving us an advantage in acquiring whatever pick we wanted to get the QB that we wanted.
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I would gladly trade out of this year's round 1 and give up another pick to have a top pick for next year's draft
And just how exactly do you know a first in next year's draft will be a top pick?

Unless it's a trade with the niners or jets, you have almost no idea where a team's pick will be slotted...

The nfl has the most parity of any of the major sports leagues...
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