Football The SEC... REALLY? - Page 12

Stewie · 11-10-2012, 05:15 PM

This conference is head and shoulders above all others?

**notorious** · 11-11-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

People are going to be pissed here when an SEC team gets into the BCSNC game while some undefeated team is sitting at home. Like Oregon, K-State, or ND.

How is a SEC team going to make up for a full point in the BCS standings?

1. Alabama 9-1 1 .9957
2. Kansas St. 10-0 .9318
3. Oregon 10-0 .9166
4. Notre Dame 10-0 .9050
5. Georgia 9-1 .8171

SCTrojan · 11-11-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too

Georgia, for one, has played a monster schedule and lost only one game. They would easily be undefeated if they had played Oregon's schedule. One off week versus a bunch of great wins over top teams isn't worse than beating up a bunch of rummies.

They got beat 35-7 at South Carolina. Not what I would call an off week. They have played Florida, but I disagree that they have played a monster schedule.

I hate Notre Dame with every fiber of my being, but I have to admit they could put their schedule up against anyone else and have it judged as tougher.

**notorious** · 11-11-2012, 11:06 AM

I think the SEC teams are fantastic, and in a 4 team playoff the proper teams that earn it would get their shot at a Title.

stevenidol · 11-11-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

I think the SEC teams are fantastic, and in a 4 team playoff the proper teams that earn it would get their shot at a Title.

It devalues the title of champion if the best team from the best conference doesn't have a chance to play for it.

**Rausch** · 11-11-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stevenidol

It devalues the title of champion if the best team from the best conference doesn't have a chance to play for it.

The college game has shifted towards the pro game.

Win, score pts, look good.

If you do you're in the running...

**LoneWolf** · 11-11-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

1-loss Bama or Georgia could (and probably should) get in over an undefeated Notre Dame. But they won't get in over an undefeated K-State or Oregon. Nor should they.

Why? Notre Dame's schedule is stronger than both Oregon's and K-State's and by seasons end will rate stronger than Alabama's. If you want to look at like opponents, compare K-State's game vs. OU against the Irish's. If all three end up undefeated, Notre Dame will have just as strong of an argument as either of the other two.

**Saul Good** · 11-11-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Why? Notre Dame's schedule is stronger than both Oregon's and K-State's and by seasons end will rate stronger than Alabama's. If you want to look at like opponents, compare K-State's game vs. OU against the Irish's. If all three end up undefeated, Notre Dame will have just as strong of an argument as either of the other two.

Who do you think Notre Dame is going to play that will be better than what Alabama will see in the conference championship game?

Go through the schedule. For every team ND has played, Bama has played a better team.

**notorious** · 11-11-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too

Georgia, for one, has played a monster schedule and lost only one game. They would easily be undefeated if they had played Oregon's schedule. One off week versus a bunch of great wins over top teams isn't worse than beating up a bunch of rummies.

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Originally Posted by notorious

This post is going to be great when Georgia moves into the top 4.

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Originally Posted by Saul Too

They won't.

1 Oregon (44) 10-0 1460 2
2 Kansas State (14) 10-0 1427 3
3 Notre Dame (1) 10-0 1346 4
4 Georgia 9-1 1260 5
5 Alabama 9-1 1243 1
6 Florida State 9-1 1143 6
7 Florida 9-1 1079 7
8 LSU 8-2 1040 9
9 Clemson 9-1 1033 8
10 Texas A&M 8-2 967 14
11 South Carolina 8-2 903 11
12 Oklahoma 7-2 799 13
13 Stanford 8-2 793 15
14 Nebraska 8-2 653 16
15 Texas 8-2 615 17
16 UCLA 8-2 494 19
17 Oregon State 7-2 490 12
18 Louisville 9-1 442 10
19 Louisiana Tech 9-1 413 18
20 Rutgers 8-1 354 20
21 USC 7-3 343 22
22 Boise State 8-2 161 24
23 Michigan 7-3 144 NR
24 Oklahoma State 6-3 111 NR
25 Texas Tech 7-3 106 NR

SCTrojan · 11-11-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too

Who do you think Notre Dame is going to play that will be better than what Alabama will see in the conference championship game?

Go through the schedule. For every team ND has played, Bama has played a better team.

So far -

Alabama Notre Dame

Michigan Navy
Western Kentucky Purdue
@Arkansas @Michigan State
Florida Atlantic Michigan
Ole Miss Miami
@Missouri Stanford
@Tennessee BYU
Mississippi State @Oklahoma
@LSU Pittsburgh
Texas A&M @Boston College

I'd say that the toughest game for Bama was at LSU. The toughest game for Notre Dame was at Oklahoma. In my mind a wash, but I'll give the edge to Bama for discussion purposes.

If you look at the rest, I don't think you can say with any definitiveness that, game for game, every one of Bama's matchups were tougher than what Notre Dame has faced.

**Saul Good** · 11-11-2012, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

1 Oregon (44) 10-0 1460 2
2 Kansas State (14) 10-0 1427 3
3 Notre Dame (1) 10-0 1346 4
4 Georgia 9-1 1260 5
5 Alabama 9-1 1243 1
6 Florida State 9-1 1143 6
7 Florida 9-1 1079 7
8 LSU 8-2 1040 9
9 Clemson 9-1 1033 8
10 Texas A&M 8-2 967 14
11 South Carolina 8-2 903 11
12 Oklahoma 7-2 799 13
13 Stanford 8-2 793 15
14 Nebraska 8-2 653 16
15 Texas 8-2 615 17
16 UCLA 8-2 494 19
17 Oregon State 7-2 490 12
18 Louisville 9-1 442 10
19 Louisiana Tech 9-1 413 18
20 Rutgers 8-1 354 20
21 USC 7-3 343 22
22 Boise State 8-2 161 24
23 Michigan 7-3 144 NR
24 Oklahoma State 6-3 111 NR
25 Texas Tech 7-3 106 NR

Interesting.

SEC teams have 6 of the top 11 spots, but they aren't head and shoulders above the other conferences who have 1, (Big 12), 1 (Pac 12), 2 (ACC).

**notorious** · 11-11-2012, 01:41 PM

Who is arguing with you?

**Saul Good** · 11-11-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Who is arguing with you?

This thread was made for the sole purpose of saying that the SEC isn't the dominant conference.

**notorious** · 11-11-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too

This thread was made for the sole purpose of saying that the SEC isn't the dominant conference.

LOL, I get them mixed up so often. All of the threads end in a pissing match.

Anyone who thinks the SEC isn't the best needs to swallow a 12 gauge shotgun barrel.

stevenidol · 11-11-2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

LOL, I get them mixed up so often. All of the threads end in a pissing match.

Anyone who thinks the SEC isn't the best needs to swallow a 12 gauge shotgun barrel.

**LoneWolf** · 11-11-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too

Who do you think Notre Dame is going to play that will be better than what Alabama will see in the conference championship game?

Go through the schedule. For every team ND has played, Bama has played a better team.

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