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Old 05-16-2019, 12:56 PM  
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SAT will assign an adversity score

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Report: SAT will assign a new score that factors in where you live and how much your parents make

The nonprofit group that administers the SAT will assign an adversity score to each student who takes the test to reflect social and economic backgrounds, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal.

The move comes amid heightened scrutiny that colleges are facing over the admissions process and the diversity of their student bodies.

"There are a number of amazing students who may have scored less (on the SAT) but have accomplished more," David Coleman, chief executive officer of the College Board, told the Journal. "We can't sit on our hands and ignore the disparities of wealth reflected in the SAT."

The number will be calculated using 15 factors, the Journal reported, including the crime rate and poverty levels of a student's high school and neighborhood. Colleges will be able to see the number when considering applicants, but students themselves won't be told their scores.

According to the Journal, 50 colleges used the adversity score in a beta test last year, and the College Board plans to expand the program to 150 institutions this fall.

CNN is reaching out to the College Board for confirmation of The Wall Street Journal's report.

According to the Journal, the score does not account for a student's race. Students are rated on a scale of 1 to 100 based on publicly available data from records such as the US census, Coleman told the paper.

A score of 50 would be considered average, the Journal reported, while a number above 50 indicates hardship, and a number below 50 privilege.


The news comes against the backdrop of a bombshell college admissions scandal, which saw a slew of indictments against wealthy and powerful parents who allegedly paid their kids' ways into elite universities. The scandal reignited the debate surrounding race and economic backgrounds and what role they play in college admissions.

Some parents were found to have paid bribes to have the SAT taken by others for their children. Not all the students were aware of the cheating arranged by their parents, according to the criminal affidavit in the case. No students currently face charges in the scandal.

A lawsuit against Harvard University also has accused the school of discriminating against Asian-American applicants by giving them low "personal" ratings that take into account traits such as leadership and likability -- which lessen their chance of admission -- while giving higher ratings to African-American and Hispanic students.

Harvard has denied there is any evidence of stereotyping. A judge has yet to make a ruling in the case.

The College Board has been concerned about income inequality influencing SAT results for a long time. White students scored higher on average than black students and Hispanic students in 2018, while Asian students scored higher on average than white students. And students whose parents are wealthy and college-educated typically did better than their peers.

Yale University was one of the schools that tried using the adversity scores as it worked to increase socioeconomic diversity on its campus.

Jeremiah Quinlan, the school's dean of undergraduate admissions, told the Journal that Yale has nearly doubled the number of low-income students and those who are first in their families to attend college to about 20% of new students.

"This (adversity score) is literally affecting every application we look at," Quinlan told the Journal. "It has been a part of the success story to help diversify our freshman class."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/16/us/sa...ore/index.html
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Old 05-16-2019, 01:05 PM   #2
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Old 05-16-2019, 01:27 PM   #3
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Old 05-16-2019, 01:31 PM   #4
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Old 05-16-2019, 01:33 PM   #5
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This seems quite counterproductive.

Use the tool for the purpose it was created, and if you need more tools for other purposes, create those tools and use them for those purposes.

What is the connection between the SAT's track record in putting numerical values on scholastic aptitude and this new metric for adversity?

Why are the two bundled, save as a marketing strategy for the SAT company to retain market credibility?
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Old 05-16-2019, 01:39 PM   #6
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This sounds dumb. Really dumb. However, does anyone really know HOW the score is actually being used, and HOW MUCH of a factor in admissions it would play?

If it is significant at all, that is wrong; if it's not...and it's more akin to community service, or "leadership" experience, or even the interview (things that may be used to separate similarly/comparably qualified applicants)....then it's more reasonable.

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This seems quite counterproductive.

Use the tool for the purpose it was created, and if you need more tools for other purposes, create those tools and use them for those purposes.

What is the connection between the SAT's track record in putting numerical values on scholastic aptitude and this new metric for adversity?

Why are the two bundled, save as a marketing strategy for the SAT company to retain market credibility?
Most Educational Research (even quantitative studies)in this area has been pretty conclusive that environmental factors very often play a large role in academic achievement (including scholastic aptitude.) However, as you suggest...quantifying the actual significance is pretty challenging.
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Old 05-16-2019, 02:05 PM   #8
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Ironically, the people most upset by this are people who couldn't find a university, let alone attend one.
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Old 05-16-2019, 02:06 PM   #9
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Stuff like this just ends up placing unqualified people into schools they're not able to keep up with, which results in an inflated drop out rate for those individuals.

Do we want to virtue signal, or do we care about the pragmatic consequences of such decisions? Because in this case the thing that makes people feel good and virtuous seems to not have the positive impact it's perceived to have.

I'm pragmatic if anything. I don't want kids getting in over their head so some bureaucrat can brag about enrollment while ignoring graduation rates.
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Ironically, the people most upset by this are people who couldn't find a university, let alone attend one.
Never took an SAT. Went to college. Your point?
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Most Educational Research (even quantitative studies)in this area has been pretty conclusive that environmental factors very often play a large role in academic achievement (including scholastic aptitude.) However, as you suggest...quantifying the actual significance is pretty challenging.
I wasn't questioning the actual relevance of environment. I was questioning SATCorp's pedigree in quantizing it.

By analogy, I wouldn't buy my fridge from the company who made my garage doors just because they're going in/on the same house.
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Ironically, the people most upset by this are people who couldn't find a university, let alone attend one.
Not ironic at all, you're trolling by spouting random shit pulled from your ass.
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Another mult? Geezus guys. Just pick an account.
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Another mult? Geezus guys. Just pick an account.
Suzzer's rub'n'tug poker club brigade.

Pathetic loser was actually so traumatized by the failures of her persuasive powers to go out into the internet to tout the danger of discourse on CP and recruit trolls to come here and brigade threads.
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The only thing that should matter on the SAT is the math score. The rest of that shit is culturally bias...at least when I took it.
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