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Old 04-20-2018, 09:03 AM  
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Comey caved in to CNN on Unverified Dossier

I cannot believe this beta male was Director of the FBI. Unreal. CNN couldn’t report on it because it was bogus and they needed to report on it to damage Trump. Which is why this meeting with Trump to inform him about the Dossier was orchestrated.


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Former FBI Director James Comey wrote in a newly released memo that pressure from news outlets — “CNN in particular” — convinced him to brief then-President-Elect Donald Trump on the infamous Steele dossier during a meeting at Trump Tower on Jan. 6, 2017.

“I said media like CNN had [the dossier] and were looking for a news hook,” Comey wrote in a memo just after briefing Trump about the salacious allegations in the dossier.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/19/co...trump-dossier/
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Old 04-20-2018, 11:08 AM   #31
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They’ve had it for months and couldn’t publish it because it was unverified. We already know Steele was talking to the media earlier, but even then they couldn’t publish it.

Enter Comey and the IC to “inform” Trump and they did it under pressure from CNN etc. Thid was orchestrated because there was no other way to publicize this unverified Dossier.
Having the dossier does not equal pressuring the FBI to "inform" Trump. You're making leaps where there is no evidence to support it.
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Old 04-20-2018, 11:13 AM   #32
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Why would they need a reason if they were already going to publish it?
My understanding is that CNN had the dossier but was hesitant to publish it without verification. So, perhaps that was the news hook Comey mentions. Anyway, they eventually did report on the dossiers existence, but omitted the details.

Now, how do you define "caved"?
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Old 04-20-2018, 11:14 AM   #33
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Having the dossier does not equal pressuring the FBI to "inform" Trump. You're making leaps where there is no evidence to support it.
No, the pressure was from CNN because wanted to legitimize the Dossier. The media was sitting on it for months. They couldn’t wait to use it.
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Old 04-20-2018, 11:16 AM   #34
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No, the pressure was from CNN because wanted to legitimize the Dossier. The media was sitting on it for months. They couldn’t wait to use it.
Sure. It seems that the fact that Comey knew that the media had the dossier prompted Comey to brief Trump.

Is that the point you've been trying to make?
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Old 04-20-2018, 11:17 AM   #35
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My understanding is that CNN had the dossier but was hesitant to publish it without verification. So, perhaps that was the news hook Comey mentions. Anyway, they eventually did report on the dossiers existence, but omitted the details.

Now, how do you define "caved"?
CNN only reported on it after Buzzfeed released it.
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Old 04-20-2018, 11:21 AM   #36
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CNN only reported on it after Buzzfeed released it.
No, that's incorrect.
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Old 04-20-2018, 11:22 AM   #37
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My understanding is that CNN had the dossier but was hesitant to publish it without verification.
Correct.


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So, perhaps that was the news hook Comey mentions.
No. The news hook was that the president was informed of the Dossier, they (media) needed to get it out there. CNN didn’t care if it was verified or not.
CNN believes it’s true, and as an a never trumper Network, they weren’t going to sit around and wait for it to be verified. It still isn’t.
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Old 04-20-2018, 11:25 AM   #38
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No, that's incorrect.
Link it, please. I don't think you're right.
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Old 04-20-2018, 11:26 AM   #39
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Link it, please. I don't think you're right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump%...Russia_dossier

On January 10, 2017, CNN reported that classified documents presented to Obama and Trump the previous week included allegations that Russian operatives possess "compromising personal and financial information" about Trump. CNN stated that it would not publish specific details on the memos because it had not "independently corroborated the specific allegations".[50][51] Following the CNN report,[52] BuzzFeed published a 35-page dossier that it said was the basis of the briefing, including unverified claims that Russian operatives had collected "embarrassing material" involving Trump that could be used to blackmail him.[53][54][55]
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No. The news hook was that the president was informed of the Dossier.
That's speculation.

And, Comey really had two choices. Inform Trump or keep it from him. You seem to have an issue with Comey informing Trump, so do you think he should have kept it from Trump?
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Sure. It seems that the fact that Comey knew that the media had the dossier prompted Comey to brief Trump.

Is that the point you've been trying to make?

Your forgetting that the briefing just happened to be leaked. Pretty big coincidence that the media wanted a reason to print it, Comey notes indicated both he and Clapper knew this and so they brief Trump, then the whole thing is leaked allowing cover for the media to print it. Clapper by the way was going to be out of a job ends up at CNN.

One would think that if they were concerned and worried about Trump they would have taken great efforts to make sure few if any would have the information to leak. Further they failed to mention to Trump any of points that might discredit the dossier to Trump. Did not tell him it was paid for by Hillary etc. nor the FBI was using it in an investigation.
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Sure. It seems that the fact that Comey knew that the media had the dossier prompted Comey to brief Trump.
Comey has known that they’ve had it for months. You know why the FBI stopped working with Steele? Because he was talking to the media. They’ve known for months. This wasn’t any revelation to Comey.

So here you have Comey admitting that CNN needs a news hook, to talk about this Dossier. One way to do that is to report that Comey and IC leaders “inform” Trump of this bogus Dossier. Meanwhile, Comey conveniently forget to mention that Hillary paid for the Dossier, aka oppo research. If you were to inform the president, why not tell him the origins of this garbage?
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That's speculation.

And, Comey really had two choices. Inform Trump or keep it from him. You seem to have an issue with Comey informing Trump, so do you think he should have kept it from Trump?
Think he had a duty to make sure that he was not the reason it was published by CNN.

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Your forgetting that the briefing just happened to be leaked. Pretty big coincidence that the media wanted a reason to print it, Comey notes indicated both he and Clapper knew this and so they brief Trump, then the whole thing is leaked allowing cover for the media to print it. Clapper by the way was going to be out of a job ends up at CNN.

One would think that if they were concerned and worried about Trump they would have taken great efforts to make sure few if any would have the information to leak. Further they failed to mention to Trump any of points that might discredit the dossier to Trump. Did not tell him it was paid for by Hillary etc. nor the FBI was using it in an investigation.
Do we know who leaked the existence of the briefing?
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Comey has known that they’ve had it for months. You know why the FBI stopped working with Steele? Because he was talking to the media. They’ve known for months. This wasn’t any revelation to Comey.

So here you have Comey admitting that CNN needs a news hook, to talk about this Dossier. One way to do that is to report that Comey and IC leaders “inform” Trump of this bogus Dossier. Meanwhile, Comey conveniently forget to mention that Hillary paid for the Dossier, aka oppo research. If you were to inform the president, why not tell him the origins of this garbage?
So, you are suggesting that Comey made the decision to give CNN their news hook, and went into the briefing with that nefarious motive. Yes?
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