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Old 04-20-2018, 09:03 AM  
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Comey caved in to CNN on Unverified Dossier

I cannot believe this beta male was Director of the FBI. Unreal. CNN couldn’t report on it because it was bogus and they needed to report on it to damage Trump. Which is why this meeting with Trump to inform him about the Dossier was orchestrated.


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Former FBI Director James Comey wrote in a newly released memo that pressure from news outlets — “CNN in particular” — convinced him to brief then-President-Elect Donald Trump on the infamous Steele dossier during a meeting at Trump Tower on Jan. 6, 2017.

“I said media like CNN had [the dossier] and were looking for a news hook,” Comey wrote in a memo just after briefing Trump about the salacious allegations in the dossier.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/19/co...trump-dossier/
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:06 PM   #61
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Are you calling Comey a liar? It’s right there in the memo in his words that he was pressured.
He was aware that they had the dossier and were looking for a reason to publish it. Comey's own words show that, yes.

I said I wasn't saying this was true, only that I wanted him to know both that it had been reported and that the reports were in many hands. I said media like CNN had them and were looking for a news hook. I said it was important that we not give them the excuse to write that the FBI has the material or (REDACTED) and that we were keeping it very close-hold. He said he couldn't believe they hadn't gone with it. I said it was inflammatory stuff that they would get killed for reporting straight up from the source reports.

Anyway, I initially was responding to this declaration of yours:

My concern is that he’s making decisions based on what CNN/media want.

Again, you don't know he was.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:19 PM   #62
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Do you think Comey should have kept the dossier from Trump?
He did keep 90% of it from Trump. So yes if he was not going to be honest with him on where it came, who paid for it, what was in it and not to do it in away that assured it would not be CNN's excuse to publish yeah he should not have told him.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:23 PM   #63
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He did keep 90% of it from Trump.
Like what?
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:26 PM   #64
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Again, you don't know he was.
He was. Read the memo.


“I explained again why I had thought it important that he know about it I also explained that one of the reasons we told him was that the media, CNN in particular, was telling us they were about to run with it.”
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:26 PM   #65
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Like what?
He only told him of the pee thing. Nothing else contained in the dossier was mentioned. Must not have been worried about those things blind siding the President.

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Old 04-20-2018, 01:35 PM   #66
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He was. Read the memo.


“I explained again why I had thought it important that he know about it I also explained that one of the reasons we told him was that the media, CNN in particular, was telling us they were about to run with it.”
I have, and it doesn't support what you claimed here:

My concern is that he’s making decisions based on what CNN/media want.

In fact, his words show that he was aware they had the story and he felt it necessary to tell Trump that fact. His words show that made a decision to inform Trump so that he wouldn't get blindsiding by it if it were reported and published.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:35 PM   #67
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I have, and it doesn't support what you claimed here:

My concern is that he’s making decisions based on what CNN/media want.

In fact, his words show that he was aware they had the story and he felt it necessary to tell Trump that fact. His words show that made a decision to inform Trump so that he wouldn't get blindsiding by it if it were reported and published.
“I also explained that one of the reasons we told him was that the media, CNN in particular, was telling us they were about to run with it.”

His words. Take it up with Comey.
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He only told him of the pee thing. Nothing else contained in the dossier was mentioned. Must not have been worried about those things blind siding the President.
I would imagine because the other parts of the dossier (e.g., Manafort laundering money) didn't have a direct link to Trump, right?
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“I also explained that one of the reasons we told him was that the media, CNN in particular, was telling us they were about to run with it.”

His words. Take it up with Comey.
Correct, and he didn't want Trump blindsided by it.
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They’ve had it for months and couldn’t publish it because it was unverified. We already know Steele was talking to the media earlier, but even then they couldn’t publish it.

Enter Comey and the IC to “inform” Trump and they did it under pressure from CNN etc. Thid was orchestrated because there was no other way to publicize this unverified Dossier.
Exactly right, all of the guffawing chuckleheads in this thread are either...

a) being willfully ignorant

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b) are just plain ignorant
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Correct, and he didn't want Trump blindsided by it.
That’s Comey’s cover, but he didn’t disclose everything. I think Comey’s intention would be more clear if he did disclose everything.

Unfortunately, he didn’t and that was a mistake.
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I would imagine because the other parts of the dossier (e.g., Manafort laundering money) didn't have a direct link to Trump, right?
If your giving him a heads up and did not want him blindsided, why not everything? According to Comey it is coming out anyway.

It's about his campaign, contacts with Russia ... That has no link to Trump? It would not hurt the incoming administration and not have to be dealt with?
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That’s Comey’s cover, but he didn’t disclose everything. I think Comey’s intention would be more clear if he did disclose everything.

Unfortunately, he didn’t and that was a mistake.
Did you read the last paragraph on the first page of the first memo?
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