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Old 02-11-2017, 02:23 PM  
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Old 06-19-2018, 05:02 PM   #796
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Comic Con and Movies =/= anything close to comic book readership.
Everyone I know that see's these movies don't read comics. That is a niche that is mostly white dudes.
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Old 06-21-2018, 07:10 AM   #797
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Everyone I know that see's these movies don't read comics. That is a niche that is mostly white dudes.
It's very similar to what your D&D crowd was back in the 70's and 80's.

Not people who walk around hating other people that are different...
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Old 06-23-2018, 07:53 AM   #798
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I highly doubt this and would love to see where you are getting your number from.
https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/...-comics-buyers
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Old 06-23-2018, 07:54 AM   #799
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You would have to live another planet to think 40% of comic book fans are chicks. Common sense guys.
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I don't know definitively one way or another, but have you ever been to a Con? I'd guess it's around 70% women. The movies in theaters seem to be about 50/50 to me. Whether they're reading comic books or not, I certainly don't know, but the only info we have are the attempts to quantify it online, and they seem to all suggest it's 30-40% female.

Is that the way it was in the 80's and 90's? Probably not. But I can definitely buy that it's grown a ton in recent years.
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Old 06-23-2018, 07:56 AM   #800
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Comic Con and Movies =/= anything close to comic book readership.
According to...?

Have you been in nerd circles? Highly populated by women.

They're just not highly visible online because online nerd culture, like gamer culture, can be misogynistic and pretty vicious to women.
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Old 06-23-2018, 08:02 AM   #801
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There doesn't need to be any resistance to these developments, guys.

Some of the absolute best characters in the superhero universe are women. There is nothing wrong with inclusion, so long as the writing remains strong.

I'll counter some of the incorrect intuition we've seen in this thread with some of my own: I'm guessing the dudes disputing this are often just old. If you're old, comics were run by men, written for boys, and largely monolithic.

If you're under the age of 40, however, you'll see that the growing female boon in comic and comics films sales have been growing like gangbusters over the last 20 years.

And, honestly, if any part of you like comic books and comic book culture, you will have women to thank going forward. Because women are the ones who will save the industry.
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Old 06-23-2018, 09:15 AM   #802
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Interesting. That's a pretty solid study (though I'm sure some will disagree). I actually worked for NPD briefly when they bought out a market research firm I was at, and their methodology is sound.

Essentially, they have panels of consumers who have been recruited to help with the research (not completely unlike Nielsen does with TV), and they balance their panels against Census demographics. They then use the panel to conduct custom studies.

In this case, it looks like they went out to people who were known to be book purchasers, then kicked anyone out who wasn't a "graphic novel" purchaser, then created a profile of those who were.

All that said, it looks like buyers of SUPERHERO comics are heavily male (only 22% female), so the 37% female number is being driven somewhat by MANGA purchasers (44% female). That would help to explain a bit of the perception differences in this thread.
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Old 06-23-2018, 12:16 PM   #803
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Who ever thought super heroes had to be male? What does being a super hero have to do with human gender?
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Larson deserves a lot of credit. She's drummed up a lot of attention for herself and the movie now. It may not need it, but it can't hurt. She may not be a troll. She may not even know that she trolled. But she did, and quite well
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Old 06-23-2018, 01:59 PM   #805
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Who ever thought super heroes had to be male? What does being a super hero have to do with human gender?
Are you familiar with the term “audience surrogate”?
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Old 06-23-2018, 02:01 PM   #806
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Larson deserves a lot of credit. She's drummed up a lot of attention for herself and the movie now. It may not need it, but it can't hurt. She may not be a troll. She may not even know that she trolled. But she did, and quite well
I may be missing something, but she’s advocating for diversity, right?

That’s trolling... how? We all want more diversity.

Or so I thought, anyway.
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Old 06-23-2018, 02:03 PM   #807
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We all want more diversity.

Or so I thought, anyway.
What made you think that?
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What made you think that?
A delusion, perhaps.

Inclusivity and diversity are generally American values.
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There doesn't need to be any resistance to these developments, guys.

Some of the absolute best characters in the superhero universe are women. There is nothing wrong with inclusion, so long as the writing remains strong.

I'll counter some of the incorrect intuition we've seen in this thread with some of my own: I'm guessing the dudes disputing this are often just old. If you're old, comics were run by men, written for boys, and largely monolithic.

If you're under the age of 40, however, you'll see that the growing female boon in comic and comics films sales have been growing like gangbusters over the last 20 years.

And, honestly, if any part of you like comic books and comic book culture, you will have women to thank going forward. Because women are the ones who will save the industry.
How has nobody tied this guy to a fence and left him there yet?
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I may be missing something, but she’s advocating for diversity, right?

That’s trolling... how? We all want more diversity.

Or so I thought, anyway.
No. She's whoring for attention. I can see how you confused the two
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