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Old 09-14-2004, 11:56 AM  
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News: Insurgents Target Iraqi Police; 59 Dead

By SAMEER N. YACOUB


BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - A car bomb Tuesday ripped through a busy market near a Baghdad police headquarters where Iraqis were waiting to apply for jobs on the force, and gunmen opened fire on a van carrying police home from work in Baqouba, killing at least 59 people total and wounding at least 114.

The attacks were the latest attempts by militants to wreck the building of a strong Iraqi security force, a keystone of the U.S. strategy for ending the unflagging insurgency ahead of nationwide elections slated for January and for allowing an eventual withdrawal of American forces.

Despite U.S. claims that Iraqi forces are showing more resolve to fight, insurgents have only grown stronger and have shown they can strike at will, particularly in Baghdad. Tuesday's attacks came only two days after a surprise insurgent offensive in the capital that saw mortars pounding downtown Baghdad and left 60 dead.

The Tawhid and Jihad group, headed by Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, posted a Web statement claiming responsibility for the car bomb in the capital. The al-Qaida-linked group said earlier it carried out Sunday's campaign of attacks and boasted that it had the upper hand in the fight against the Americans and their Iraqi allies.

Tuesday's car bomb exploded by a bustling row of shops and cafes and left a gaping 10-foot crater in Haifa Street - the same central avenue where much of Sunday's violence took place.

The blast devastated buildings and gutted cars near the western Baghdad police headquarters. Though the attack apparently targeted police, many of the 47 dead were people who had been shopping or having a morning meal. At least 114 were wounded, Health Ministry spokesman Saad Al-Amili said.

Paramedics and residents picked up body parts scattered across the street and put them into boxes. Anguished men lifted bodies burned beyond recognition and lay them gently on stretchers. Helicopters circled.

Afterward, angry crowds of young men pumped their fists in the air and denounced President Bush and interim Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, saying they had failed to protect Iraqis. "Bush is a dog," they chanted.

In Baqouba, gunmen in two cars opened fire Tuesday on a van carrying policemen, killing 11 officers and a civilian, said Qaisar Hamid of Baqouba General Hospital.

It was at least the second recent attack on security forces in Baqouba: On July 28, a car bomb exploded outside a police recruiting center in the eastern, Sunni-dominated city, killing at least 68 people.

Also Tuesday, the military said three American soldiers were killed and eight others wounded in separate attacks in Iraq in the past 24 hours.

Meanwhile, saboteurs blew up a junction where multiple oil pipelines cross the Tigris River in northern Iraq on Tuesday, setting off a chain reaction in power generation systems that left the entire country without power, officials said.

Firefighters struggled to put out the blaze after the pre-dawn attack near Beiji, 155 miles north of Baghdad. Crude oil cascaded down the hillside into the river. Fire burned atop the water, fueled by the gushing oil.

The morning car bomb in Baghdad ripped through would-be recruits waiting in line at the police headquarters and market-goers. The bomb was inside a Toyota vehicle parked near the market and a short distance down the road from the police headquarters, which was closed to traffic, said Interior Ministry spokesman Col. Adnan Abdel-Rahman.

"Seconds earlier, people were drinking tea or eating sandwiches and then I could see their remains hanging from trees," said Mahdi Mohammed, 30, who was standing outside his barber shop when the explosion went off. "I could see burning people running in all directions."

Ali Abul-Amir had been waiting in line to join the police force but had gone around the corner to buy a drink when the explosion went off.

"Such places were targeted before," he said. "I blame Ayad Allawi's government for what happened because they did not take the necessary security measures."

Others, however, directed their anger at the militants.

"Such acts cannot be considered part of the resistance (against American forces). This is not a jihad, they are not mujahideen," said Amir Abdel Hassan, a 41-year-old teacher. "Iraq is not a country, it's a big graveyard," he said.

The violence has escalated despite the installation of Allawi's government in June and now raises worries over the January elections.

The U.S. military has been training Iraqi police and the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps members for more than 18 months. But the Iraqis have still been unable to take over the main duties in fighting the insurgency.

Attacks on Iraqi security forces and police officers - seen as collaborators by militants - have left hundreds of people dead since insurgents began a 17-month campaign to expel U.S.-led forces.

From April 2003 to May 2004, 710 Iraqi police were killed out of a total force of 130,000 officers, authorities said. Since May, at least another 180 people have been killed in attacks targeting police facilities. Insurgents have also kept up a steady drumbeat of smaller scale attacks on police checkpoints and assassinations of police officials.

The forces' weakness were highlighted in April, when police largely abandoned their stations in the face of an uprising by Shiite militiamen in Baghdad and southern cities. When the militia rose up again last month, U.S. forces carried out the vast majority of the fighting.

After the April disaster, the Army general formerly in charge of training, Maj. Gen. Paul D. Eaton, acknowledged that misguided U.S. methods had wasted almost a year's worth of training.

U.S. commanders now say they're beefing up their training efforts, trying to improve the Iraqi officer corps and supply the security forces with the sort of heavy machine guns and rocket-propelled grenade launchers that they have lacked but that insurgents have had in plentiful supply.

Bush administration officials have also been insisting they have a plan for stopping the insurgency.

Bathsheba Crocker, an analyst with the U.S.Center for Strategic and International Studies, questioned whether U.S and Iraqi leaders have a workable strategy.

"The security situation is chaotic and it seems to be deteriorating," she said, adding that the insurgents' attacks in the capital were "probably very deliberate. No security in Baghdad means there is no security in the country."

"It signifies that the insurgency is growing in sophistication and organization. It is more capable of carrying out all these major and synchronized attacks," she said.

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Old 09-15-2004, 08:05 AM   #31
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Old 09-15-2004, 10:09 AM   #32
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I refuse to get into name calling but I agree with Duck dog. The majority of Iraqi's want a free Iraq. There are a minority of Iraqi's and foriegners who are fugging everything up.

The fastest way to get us out of there is to let the transition take place. That means pointing out the insurgents. Co-operating with their own interim govt. Help to solve the problems.

Now I realize those that were murdered today were doing exactly that. The problem is there are not enough of those people stepping up.

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Old 09-15-2004, 10:18 AM   #33
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The Saudi Wahabi sect of Islamifascists are the primary troublemakers.

We need to stomp a hole in their ass. Quit playing nice; quit dictating tactics from Washington. Give the soldiers clear strategic objectives and get the *$&% out of their way.
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Old 09-15-2004, 11:55 AM   #34
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I watched a bit about this on the news last night. From what little the media showed the locals were running around quite upset after this terrorist act. What stuck me was the people (at least the ones they showed) were blaming Bush and America for this. I just don't get it. These people were applying to become policemen. The sooner the Iraqis can police their own country the sooner the United States troops will leave. I have always maintained that regardless of our motivation for being in Iraq in the first place, these people would be far better off running their own country instead of being oppressed by a murdering bastage like SH. I am starting to wonder if their ignorance and religious bigotry run so deep that they will piss away their chance at democracy and freedom. It has been put on a silver platter at their feet. Will they choose to grab hold of it or, will they revert to their hatred of Christians, Jews, Kurds and all those different from their selves? Will they embrace freedom and liberty or will they revert to a society where a raped woman should be killed to restore the "honor" of the family? Even if the rapist was part of that "honorable" family in the first place? Is this just the radical views of a vocal minority or, have these people been so isolated, so brainwashed that there is no hope for them? We the western democracies learned much from mistakes of the past. After WWII the victors rebuilt our enemies so that they could be our partners, our friends and allies instead of punishing and acting out of vengeance. Perhaps the world is no longer worthy of our efforts.
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Old 09-15-2004, 01:01 PM   #35
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If they choose to go down the path of the PA... to 'jihad' the only answer = eradication. Total war.

I hope to God it does not come to that.
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Old 10-01-2004, 11:26 PM   #36
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Retard,

How about reading a few articles about the folks that were killed today in Iraq, before getting diarrhea at the keyboard.

The vanload of Iraqi policemen that got their innards ventilated today were part of the US approved 'fighting back", as were the line of police recruits that were victims to the car bomb in Baghdad.

Your post was the stupidest thing ever posted on Chiefs planet.

Especially considering that the insurgents are exactly standing up to their attempted colonizers.

You blame the victims for doing exactly what our government has asked of them for "fighting back", joining Iraqi security forces or the police. and then you say that they should do what our founding father's did and stand up to the colonial power.

Folks resisting the colonial power are the ones who killed the ones following the US orders.

Everybody knows that Bush's followers are stupid, but c'mon. Damn.

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Old 10-01-2004, 11:30 PM   #37
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BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - A car bomb Tuesday ripped through a busy market near a Baghdad police headquarters where Iraqis were waiting to apply for jobs on the force, and gunmen opened fire on a van carrying police home from work in Baqouba, killing at least 59 people total and wounding at least 114.

Insurgency 101: Whack the colloborators.
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Old 10-01-2004, 11:43 PM   #40
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Insurgency 101: Whack the colloborators.
I thought that was like 060?
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Old 10-01-2004, 11:45 PM   #41
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Retard,

How about reading a few articles about the folks that were killed today in Iraq, before getting diarrhea at the keyboard.

The vanload of Iraqi policemen that got their innards ventilated today were part of the US approved 'fighting back", as were the line of police recruits that were victims to the car bomb in Baghdad.

Your post was the stupidest thing ever posted on Chiefs planet.

Especially considering that the insurgents are exactly standing up to their attempted colonizers.

You blame the victims for doing exactly what our government has asked of them for "fighting back", joining Iraqi security forces or the police. and then you say that they should do what our founding father's did and stand up to the colonial power.

Folks resisting the colonial power are the ones who killed the ones following the US orders.

Everybody knows that Bush's followers are stupid, but c'mon. Damn.
Wow; this POS needs to end it...
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I thought that was like 060?
Naw. 060 is how to outsmart Donald Rumsfeld.

Thing is, these tards HAVE to whack colloborators...because if an insurgency doesn't, there will be more colloborators, and eventually their nation isn't just occupied, it's conquered.

This kinda thing is hardwired into insurgency, and can actually be exploited.

If we were INTERESTED in exploiting things like that.
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Old 10-02-2004, 07:48 AM   #43
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First, not all Iraqi's blame Americans or Bush for these types attacks. But that's what our media shows, because that's what sells. It's easier to believe terrible things about someone (or a country) than it is something good. Unfortunately more Americans will pick up and read a paper that has an article about a burning house where the entire family died, as opposed to an article about a house being built and donated to someone who needs it.


Secondly, I agree that the everyday civilian needs to do something to help. IMO, taking up arms is not necessarily it. BUT, some of these civilians know where these insurgents are hiding - go tell the Americans, the British or whoever happens to be in that area. (I personally wouldn't go back to my house until after the attack/raid was completed). By allowing the insurgents safe haven among them, they are giving them tacit approval to continue their attacks.
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