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Old 10-05-2012, 04:24 PM  
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Post Pioli, are we looking at a full rebuild?

Let's be optimistic and imagine for a moment that the end of this season brings the axe, and Pioli, Crennel, Cassel, and most of the team's major problems are swept out as Clark Hunt proves he is not an absentee owner and does in fact care about winning.

Are we looking at a near total rebuild, at this point?

This would be a team with no GM, no coaching staff worth retaining, and no quarterback. Most of Pioli's draft choices have melted away like cotton candy. If we had a window when we snuck into that Wild Card game, it seems to have closed. But the Chiefs are the 8th youngest team in the league with an average age of 25.8

Would we find a new GM attempting to retain talent like Bowe, Dorsey, Johnson, etc?

Or are we in "blow it up except for Houston, Hali, and a few select parts" territory?

Do the fans have the stomach for another rebuild?
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:15 PM   #136
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I don't think Haley is getting paid by the Chiefs now that he's in Pittsburgh.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Even if he is, wouldn't this year be his last?
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:15 PM   #137
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He doesn't have to fire Pioli.

Hunt has to show interest in his team, though. He does that by overruling Pioli and forcing his hand to draft a QB.
I suppose Clark can do that but will he? Is he gonna tell Pioli how to do his job? If so, I guess Clark is willing to accept responsibility for the draft, even though he has hired Pioli to run the football operations.

I bet Clark will just check chiefsplanet to know which QB to draft. It's all good!
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:15 PM   #138
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:16 PM   #139
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:17 PM   #140
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I suppose Clark can do that but will he? Is he gonna tell Pioli how to do his job? If so, I guess Clark is willing to accept responsibility for the draft, even though he has hired Pioli to run the football operations.

I bet Clark will just check chiefsplanet to know which QB to draft. It's all good!
I'm sure he would come here first before consulting the team scouts.
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:18 PM   #141
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Even if he is, wouldn't this year be his last?
I had to search, but yes, it was a 4 yr deal.
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:19 PM   #142
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As I've been saying ALL OFFSEASON AND 2012 SEASON:

Clark either extends Pioli this year or fires him.

If he extends him, he gives him A LOT MORE MONEY THAN FIVE MILLION.

Why would he give MORE MONEY to a LOSER?
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:20 PM   #143
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As I've been saying ALL OFFSEASON AND 2012 SEASON:

Clark either extends Pioli this year or fires him.

If he extends him, he gives him A LOT MORE MONEY THAN FIVE MILLION.

Why would he give MORE MONEY to a LOSER?
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:22 PM   #144
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As I've been saying ALL OFFSEASON AND 2012 SEASON:

Clark either extends Pioli this year or fires him.

If he extends him, he gives him A LOT MORE MONEY THAN FIVE MILLION.

Why would he give MORE MONEY to a LOSER?
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:23 PM   #145
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So basically Pioli and Haley will be off the books. If that's the case then yes, I can see Clark bringing in a new GM and then letting that GM hire the coaching staff and make changes to the roster. The only remaining dead money would be Crennel and probably at least some of the fired coaching staff.
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:39 PM   #147
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Pioli won't be extended or fired. He's here for 1 more year, at least. I just hope he dumps his love for one of the worst starting QBs in the league.
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:42 PM   #148
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Pioli won't be extended or fired. He's here for 1 more year, at least. I just hope he dumps his love for one of the worst starting QBs in the league.
sooo what does this mean? Are you saying Pioli will be hired year-to-year kinda like renting a house month-to-month? I don't think it works that way but whatever.
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:43 PM   #149
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There is no way that you extend a GM with 3 losing seasons out of four.
Has anyone as yet created a comprehensive list of his boneheaded decisions? If not, that should be done and sent to CK.

If there's the smallest sliver of hope here, it might be found in the fact that CK did axe Carl and hire the person he thought was the best available candidate for the job. Other than his father's tendency toward blind loyalty, there's no reason to believe that Clark has changed his mind about building a winner.

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sooo what does this mean? Are you saying Pioli will be hired year-to-year kinda like renting a house month-to-month? I don't think it works that way but whatever.
... He has 1 more year on his contract, idiot.
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