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Old 01-22-2014, 04:18 PM  
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Bob Gates Farewell Warning

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"[Saudi King] Abdullah … wanted a full-scale military attack on Iranian military targets, not just the nuclear sites. He warned that if we did not attack, the Saudis “must go our own way to protect our interests.” As far as I was concerned, he was asking the United States to send its sons and daughters into a war with Iran in order to protect the Saudi position in the Gulf and the region, as if we were mercenaries. He was asking us to shed American blood, but at no time did he suggest that any Saudi blood might be spilled. He went on and on about how the United States was seen as weak by governments in the region. The longer he talked, the angrier I got … and I responded quite undiplomatically."

"I recommended saying no to all the Israelis’ requests. Giving them any of the items on their new list would signal U.S. support for them to attack Iran unilaterally: “At that point, we lose our ability to control our own fate in the entire region.” I said we would be handing over the initiative regarding U.S. vital national interests to a foreign power, a government that, when we asked them not to attack Syria, did so anyway.
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I decided to communicate once again with Bush privately. I said, We must not make our vital interests in the entire Middle East, the Persian Gulf, and Southwest Asia hostage to another nation’s decisions—no matter how close an ally."
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Old 01-23-2014, 11:06 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea View Post
Here's more, though I don't expect any FP Progressives ( aka NeoCons ) to believe it. All bad reports about ME are believed in knee jerk fashion:

January 20, 2014

Newly released information about the alleged rocket that carried poisonous sarin gas and exploded in a Damascus suburb on Aug. 21, 2013, suggests that the rationale President Barack Obama and his minions originally gave for U.S. and NATO military action against President Bashir al-Assad and his regime was off-base, according to a report on Monday from the.
Cites HSN and McClatchy DC:
HSN claims in its study that security and weapons experts meeting in the nation's capital to ponder the issue, concluded that the rocket with sarin gas in the attack had a maximum range that was much too short for the sarin-carrying rocket to have been fired from the Syrian military positions where the President Obama and others said they originated.

You should all read the entire link as it refers to the rebels using this stuff.

http://www.examiner.com/article/obam...-syria-s-assad
Are you referring to this?

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Old 01-23-2014, 11:07 AM   #47
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Our obsession with military adventures abroad, starting aggressive wars, demonization of the other, fascist economics, an effectively nationalized financial sector, a central bank with a monopoly on money and credit, health care sector nationalization, growing centralization of education, centralization of local police including an un necessary increase in the use of swat teams plus military style vehicles, spying on all Americans, condemnation of whistelblowers are all markers of the fascism we are living in based on big lies.

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