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keg in kc · 04-25-2011, 03:51 PM

A few have suggested it, might as well test the waters. The idea is to give people who haven't read the books a safe place to talk about the show.

A few quick ground rules:

No Spoilers!!!!! for upcoming episodes.
Larger Song of Ice and Fire discussion should be limited to the other thread although I think a tiny bit of book delving to fill in holes should be okay (example of this would be talking about Catelyn and her treatment of the wolves in the novel, which was alluded to on TV but never really made clear...)
Everything that happened that week is fair game once an episode airs. So if you don't watch on Sunday night, I'd stay outta here until you do...

RINGLEADER · 06-01-2014, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

I don't like Dani. She is a hypocrite. She was all for the Dothraki raping, killing, and enslaving people when she was with Khal Drago. Remember, that is why the black magic woman did what she did, it was revenge for what the Dothraki did to her village.

Now she is against all that out of nowhere to make her seem all heroic.

Actually, if you go back and watch the first season they introduce her issues with people being enslaved in the second or third episode. Problem is, at that time, she herself is enslaved.

GloucesterChief · 06-01-2014, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Actually, if you go back and watch the first season they introduce her issues with people being enslaved in the second or third episode. Problem is, at that time, she herself is enslaved.

Then it is even worse.

She is okay with it when it gives her power.
She is against it when it gives her power.

She doesn't exactly have a core strength of belief there now does she?

RINGLEADER · 06-01-2014, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Then it is even worse.

She is okay with it when it gives her power.
She is against it when it gives her power.

She doesn't exactly have a core strength of belief there now does she?

She had no power at the beginning of the series. Not sure what you're talking about.

**Ragged Robin** · 06-01-2014, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Then it is even worse.

She is okay with it when it gives her power.
She is against it when it gives her power.

She doesn't exactly have a core strength of belief there now does she?

It's called character development. In the books she gets married to Drogo at around 14 years old which in the books was about 4 years ago from where we're at now. People don't formulate their own philosophies and ideals for themselves until adulthood. Also she's clearly NOT okay with the Khalisar raping and pillaging towns. Her protection of the women and children during this time foreshadows her protection of slaves in the future.

MMXcalibur · 06-01-2014, 11:38 PM

Oh Oberyn....I knew that was coming.

Kidd Lex · 06-01-2014, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KCtotheSB

Oh Oberyn....I knew that was coming.

I did too once the fight started, too damn cocky.

I have found this to be the best show I've ever experienced, but if Tyrion goes, whats the point?

I get not having a white knight, but the compelling characters are truly declining. Maybe Sansa becomes a pimptress and starts her revenge, I could get behind that. Literally...

KC_Connection · 06-02-2014, 12:23 AM

Well shit. The Mountain looks done for (if not already dead), but I guess because he killed Oberyn first he gets the win.

Only chance for Tyrion now might be his brother/last friend in the world stepping in to save him. How Jaime will manage to do that, I have no idea. I just hope he does.

Also, an interesting choice made by Sansa there. It's taken 4 seasons, but she's finally joined the game herself. Really want her and Arya finally meet up next episode (something always seems to step in the way of Stark reunions).

Jorah's dismissal was tough to watch, but you can't say he didn't have it coming after spying on her for as long as he did. I always felt that would be revealed at some point and Tywin, of course, was the one to create the dissension.

KC_Connection · 06-02-2014, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Yeah, but if you don't give the audience someone to root for even if they aren't a complete white knight then the audience checks out.

I remember hearing this exact same ridiculous complaint after Ned Stark died in S1. Instead of declining, the audience has more than doubled since then and become a massive success (despite more deaths in a similar vein). Nobody is checking out of GoT here.

KC_Connection · 06-02-2014, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

The show will have to finish on its own. There is no time to wait for RR.

I've read that the producers only want to do 8 seasons max. If that's true and there's four seasons left of this, it's hard to see how that will fit into Martin's schedule with two remaining books. Seems like they may have a problem on their hands at some point.

fairladyZ · 06-02-2014, 07:15 AM

So did sansa sleep with little finger? There in the room together she says she knows what he wants and has a smirk then next thing you know she comes out in leather and black hair and all bad ass

**Buck** · 06-02-2014, 08:36 AM

George RR Martin is an obese 65 year old man. Think about how many obese 70 year old men you have seen. I haven't seen many.

Amnorix · 06-02-2014, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

George RR Martin is an obese 65 year old man. Think about how many obese 70 year old men you have seen. I haven't seen many.

There are plenty. The question isnt' really "can he hang on 5 years", but rather can he hang on 15-20 to get through the 8+ books that clearly will be required.

And the answer is "not likely". Depressingly, he seems very resistant to setting up a situation where someone could complete the books for him, as Brandon Sanderson so admirably did for Robert Jordan with the Wheel of Time series.

**Baby Lee** · 06-02-2014, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Also, an interesting choice made by Sansa there. It's taken 4 seasons, but she's finally joined the game herself.

**Baby Lee** · 06-02-2014, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ

So did sansa sleep with little finger? There in the room together she says she knows what he wants and has a smirk then next thing you know she comes out in leather and black hair and all bad ass

Way off, she knows he wants King's Landing AND MORE.

She sees his ambition better than anyone.

Kidd Lex · 06-02-2014, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I remember hearing this exact same ridiculous complaint after Ned Stark died in S1. Instead of declining, the audience has more than doubled since then and become a massive success (despite more deaths in a similar vein). Nobody is checking out of GoT here.

Season 1 versus 4 seasons of investment in a character. Tyrions story and character are by far the most compelling/entertaining portion of GoTs. Somehow I'm predicting Tyrion slips out of the head removal, but who knows with the sick **** known as George R.R. Martin.

Don't take my imp...

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KC_Connection Perpetual Mediocrity Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $5432783	Well shit. The Mountain looks done for (if not already dead), but I guess because he killed Oberyn first he gets the win. Only chance for Tyrion now might be his brother/last friend in the world stepping in to save him. How Jaime will manage to do that, I have no idea. I just hope he does. Also, an interesting choice made by Sansa there. It's taken 4 seasons, but she's finally joined the game herself. Really want her and Arya finally meet up next episode (something always seems to step in the way of Stark reunions). Jorah's dismissal was tough to watch, but you can't say he didn't have it coming after spying on her for as long as he did. I always felt that would be revealed at some point and Tywin, of course, was the one to create the dissension.
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