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Old 03-24-2014, 07:22 PM  
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Critics question the fatal shooting of a homeless camper
Posted: Mar 24, 2014 5:20 PM CDT
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New Mexico - Critics of the Albuquerque Police Department are raising serious questions about the fatal shooting of a homeless camper.

38-year-old James Boyd argued with police for more three hours last Sunday about illegally camping in open space.

Boyd continued to refuse officer commands and began threatening their lives causing officers to open fire.

Boyd had a violent 20-year criminal history including multiple incidents of violence against officers and years of mental health related concerns.
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Old 03-25-2014, 07:49 AM   #91
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The video is now disabled. :-/ i went to send it to my buddy who is a cop in a bad area and deals with violent perps all day...wanted to get his opinion. But now video cannot be seen.
Obviously NSFW.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:16 AM   #92
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I like how they use the non-lethal force after they already killed him... by shooting him in the back.
He was still alive dipshit....you could hear him and see him moving.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:21 AM   #93
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He was still alive dipshit....you could hear him and see him moving.
Don't confuse them with facts
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:24 AM   #94
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He was still alive dipshit....you could hear him and see him moving.
For like 3 secs. I guess you win on that one.

I guess they did wait to shoot him with the bean bags until after they told him to drop the knives and he responded with "I can't move."
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:25 AM   #95
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I wonder what the over/under on how many people police murder a month would be if all facts were brought to light?

These are the mother****ers committing crimes.. And then they're the ones doing the investigations of the very crimes that they committed.

"Skilled daggersmen"? "Throwing the knife"?
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:27 AM   #96
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The entire situation was bad all around. Could the cops have went a different route? Possibly....but they didn't. A man, who was obviously mentally ill, is now dead. The cops will have to pay for their actions. But you have to take in all of the factors of the event. I'm sure the cops were factoring in the environment they were in. ****...the cop with the camera was having problems climbing up the terrain.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:29 AM   #97
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The entire situation was bad all around. Could the cops have went a different route? Possibly....but they didn't. A man, who was obviously mentally ill, is now dead. The cops will have to pay for their actions. But you have to take in all of the factors of the event. I'm sure the cops were factoring in the environment they were in. ****...the cop with the camera was having problems climbing up the terrain.
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Old 03-25-2014, 09:34 AM   #98
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I know that it is not the same thing, but check this video out.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O9GmUcp0Mo


Again, I grew up with an Uncle that was a cop. Were he still alive, he would have kicked this Cop's ass up one side of the street and down the other. The most unprofessional example of police "professionalism" that I have ever seen. And he us still on the job. Gee, I can't imagine how UPS, Fed Ex and the mailman were ever able to do their jobs around these "mad dogs".
That was disgusting and has done a great job of putting me in a bad mood.
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Seriously though... "Booya?"
Very professional.

While I side with the officers 90% of the time, this amount of force was not warranted. The officers were far enough away and wearing protective gear. I don't care if it's Randy Johnson "throwing" those knives. It's not going to be fatal. This was chickenshit mob mentality.
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Anyway you look at it knifes are for sure "real" threats. At my job we always consider the 21 foot rule. A suspect with a knife can close a 21 foot distance and stab you before an officer can draw from a holster and fire a round. Also knifes never run out of "bullets."
This doesn't seem relevant to me...

How many feet is the rule when you have 7+ cops with guns drawn, pointed at perp, with hammers cocked already? Probably more like 2.1 feet in my imagination. I think It is not an easy job being a cop, they really do provide a lot more than people like to give them credit for. That being said, this video seems like straight up murder to me.

What's the deal with the guy who keeps plugging him while he is motionless face down on the ground? Gotta make sure to finish the job, or what? In my mind there is not a rational reason to continue to shoot the guy at that point.

Also... People talking about how you have to make split second decisions and how that makes it more complicated, Isn't the whole point of the training to put you in a position to act intelligently in a situation like this? The whole situation could have been handled differently imo. The tazer supposedly doesn't work all the time. Ok, but couldn't they have at least TRIED IT before just rushing him with dogs and guns?
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:05 AM   #102
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The booyah part did bother me. Just be professional.
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The booyah part did bother me. Just be professional.
Me too, but maybe it's one thing he says a lot anyway and it just came out. I agree it sounds bad too though. It's not nearly as stupid as drawing knives as armed police officers approach you.
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Me too, but maybe it's one thing he says a lot anyway and it just came out. I agree it sounds bad too though. It's not nearly as stupid as drawing knives as armed police officers approach you.
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