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DTLB58 · 01-13-2013, 11:45 AM

• The early rumblings out of Kansas City are that Andy Reid will make the offensive line a priority this offseason, which likely means that OLT Branden Albert could be receiving a strong offer or that he could be franchised to protect the Chiefs from losing him. It's unlikely that WR Dwayne Bowe would be tagged a second straight year, but he could return if the price is right. Reid likes offense and knows he needs receivers to thrive.

Anybody else see the benefit of cutting Albert and spending the #1 overall pick on another LT? Not me. So if these guys are right, this is good news. Hope we keep him and move forward to other positions.

O.city · 01-13-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Brandon Albert was a top 10 LT in the NFL (top 5 is overstating it, IMO).

However, we do have to deal with the very real concern that his back may/may not be a lingering problem. More O-linemen have been felled by back issues than any other injury. These are huge men that are putting a lot of strain on those disks and once the back starts to go, it tends to get worse quickly.

Geno Smith is absolutely still your guy, but be careful with deciding we have LT locked up for the next 5-6 years.

Albert's probably a guy you should tag and not extend long-term, to be honest. We need to see if he can come back next season and put those back issues behind him.

Bowe, OTOH, is durable as hell and has already played under the tag once. He should get the long-term deal and Albert should get the tag.

This makes too much sense.

And it's nice to think we actually have guys in place now who will probably do this.

L.A. Chieffan · 01-13-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

draft a QB in the 2nd rd.

Local boy, Klein. Starting for his home town team. Woo getting chills just thinking about it!

Sully · 01-13-2013, 12:39 PM

When will this shit end?
A) even if our OL wasn't well above average, you DON'T NEED a great OL to win in this league!!!
B) you DO NEED a quality QB to win in this league!!!
C) so you morons are suggesting we take the 3rd or 4th best QB in the draft for two (dumbass) reasons; no QB this year is Andrew Luck, and we should replace a player we already have at a position of strength because of that.

Guys, I like the pre-2000s type of football as much as the next guy. But that's not the NFL anymore!

**Rausch** · 01-13-2013, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58

Anybody else see the benefit of cutting Albert and spending the #1 overall pick on another LT? Not me. So if these guys are right, this is good news. Hope we keep him and move forward to other positions.

We have the money to keep Albert and Bowe...

**dannybcaitlyn** · 01-13-2013, 01:00 PM

In Reids eyes, our offensive line should look all pro compared to the one he just left!

**Rausch** · 01-13-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn

In Reids eyes, our offensive line should look all pro compared to the one he just left!

This.

I think he's squatting.

I don't think he has any intention of picking at 1...

DJ's left nut · 01-13-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

This makes too much sense.

And it's nice to think we actually have guys in place now who will probably do this.

There is no doubt in my mind that you could have come up with 9 of the most knowledgeable posters on this board and submit every personnel decision to a majority vote over the last 4 years and have ended up with a significantly better roster for your efforts.

They'd have to elect an officer to act as a trigger man (because in the end, someone has to be the guy that executes the plan) and perhaps put together a sub-committee of posters for nomination purposes on FA and Draft picks, but it would've been a far better collection of talent that way.

Fortunately I don't it's necessary with Dorsey because this structure kinda looks that way already (just without drawing from CP as it's talent base).

It's football - it doesn't take a !@#$ing rocket surgeon or anything.

**The Franchise** · 01-13-2013, 01:06 PM

The franchise tag for an OT is going to be over $10 million......just an FYI.

DJ's left nut · 01-13-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

The franchise tag for an OT is going to be over $10 million......just an FYI.

True, but to get that number down you'll have to sign him long-term and give him a hell of a signing bonus. If his back has gone south, we'll take a much bigger hit than the $10 mil in a couple of years when we have to eat the bonus when we cut him.

And we have a nice roll-over this season without a really premier FA crop - so why not eat up some of that cap space by protecting ourselves with the Franchise tag instead of giving the big signing bonus and potentially really hurting ourself if he can't come back from the back problem.

Finally - the tag figure for WRs is almost exactly the same (and may go up even more with the CJ and Fitz extensions coming on their big mony years). If you're going to use the tag at all, it really should be on Albert.

Prison Bitch · 01-13-2013, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Both the Packers guy and the Eagles guy knows how important a line is.

Who doesn't? Is there someone out there who doesn't know this?

**Rausch** · 01-13-2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

The franchise tag for an OT is going to be over $10 million......just an FYI.

If paid and no deal is negotiated...

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-13-2013, 01:19 PM

I would get Bowe signed and franchise Albert. Pay the money for a year and see if he's good to go. That would be my play.

**Rausch** · 01-13-2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I would get Bowe signed and franchise Albert. Pay the money for a year and see if he's good to go. That would be my play.

This.

Then lay pick 1 out there like some college tiddys at a frat party...

DJ's left nut · 01-13-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I would get Bowe signed and franchise Albert. Pay the money for a year and see if he's good to go. That would be my play.

The only downside to it is that you now anchor Albert at 'franchise' money if you want to sign him long-term in 2014.

The high-risk method would be to try to sign him long-term right now at an 'injury' discount and before a decent coaching staff comes in here and makes him look better.

If he's healthy, you'll look like a genius. If he's not...well it's not going to get you fired but it's not going to do you any favors.

I just don't think the Chiefs can afford to take the chance with a back issue on an O-lineman. I'd tag and follow.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-13-2013, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The only downside to it is that you now anchor Albert at 'franchise' money if you want to sign him long-term in 2014.

The high-risk method would be to try to sign him long-term right now at an 'injury' discount and before a decent coaching staff comes in here and makes him look better.

If he's healthy, you'll look like a genius. If he's not...well it's not going to get you fired but it's not going to do you any favors.

I just don't think the Chiefs can afford to take the chance with a back issue on an O-lineman. I'd tag and follow.

If you can get it, then I agree. But it needs to be a good discount, because that back is a serious risk.

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