The Official "Lost" the series discussion

[Deberg_1990]

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....

[banyon]

Uh-oh. Looks like Locke hit the Ol' Dharma brand PCP again.

[chiefsfan987]

This is the first time since the show started that I'm not planning on watching. Lost is starting to lose my attention and is borderline slipping into suckville.... I think I'll watch Jericho instead.

[Fairplay]

DUDE!!


The Locke acting like an indian tripping on whatever he was taking scene was cool you have to admit. That airport scene was it.

Locke lived on a pot farm!! He was cool!! I bet that was some awesome sh*t. No wonder they were eating a big meal. Wowi Maui.

That polar bear sounds like a tiger?? Cross breading perhaps.

Locke says..."Charlie stay off herion, weed is the way to go man."

Twice refering to Locke being a hunter.

I guess that means he will eventually hunt down those bad guys (others).

It looks like Desmond has something to with all this obviously. Somehow.
Maybe he can see into the future or something.

He should have listened to Echo. Plus Echo talks while hes asleep. Thats talented.

That dudes a narc! Locke what the hell were you thinking!!

[Fairplay]

Originally Posted by chiefsfan987

This is the first time since the show started that I'm not planning on watching. Lost is starting to lose my attention and is borderline slipping into suckville.... I think I'll watch Jericho instead.

Lost has a lot of characters to keep up on. Im not sure what to think about it but im still hanging in there. Two seasons invested in it so WTF.

Jericho is cheaply made i think. I could go on. It still retains interest as to what is going on. Still in limbo as to what to think about it.

Jake and Lennie and dale seem to hold most of the keys so far.

(or dude who came back from San Diego, the black dude who is paraniod, and the kid in who runs a store.)

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by Fairplay

Lost has a lot of characters to keep up on. Im not sure what to think about it but im still hanging in there. Two seasons invested in it so WTF.

Jericho is cheaply made i think. I could go on. It still retains interest as to what is going on. Still in limbo as to what to think about it.

Jake and Lennie and dale seem to hold most of the keys so far.

(or dude who came back from San Diego, the black dude who is paraniod, and the kid in who runs a store.)

I have not watched Jericho at all, but I think The Stand by Stephen King would have made a much better foundation for a series. There would have been many characters and storylines to chose from and follow.

[Ultra Peanut]

Have you seen me pants, brothah?

[007]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

Have you seen me pants, brothah?

Like the avatar.

[banyon]

Originally Posted by chiefsfan987

This is the first time since the show started that I'm not planning on watching. Lost is starting to lose my attention and is borderline slipping into suckville.... I think I'll watch Jericho instead.

Lost was much better before Phobia left.

[ChiefFan31]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

Have you seen me pants, brothah?

Yep, ol Desmond is a trip. Him and that hey brothah

That was a damn good episode. So its what two more, then a big ass cliff hanger then 12 week hiatus. I think I might DVR and watch several in a row once it comes back. So damn many commercials, even with being able to FF through them. I forget how important Locke is, he is a good actor and brings a lot to the series.


Bragging on the Internet is Lame, but finally watched a episode in HD for the first time, just got a HDTV and Hot Damn it looks good

[Psyko Tek]

This is the first one I have watched "live" this year
definately gonna tivo or bit the rest the commercials screw it up

[ct]

I've been trying to make the animal connection myself, keeps coming back.

Theory #4 from episode 2 weeks ago (gets too far-fetched towards the end):

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/comment...6_3_0_,00.html

4. THE DHARMA ZOO

LAST SEASON Not ranked

ANALYSIS When Juliet casually revealed that Jack's cell inside Dharma's former zoology facility, the Hydra, had been a lab for studying sharks and dolphins, I naturally began to wonder what kind of weird science was being conducted inside this station. I thought, ''Doc, aren't sharks and dolphins natural enemies? Perhaps these brainy, aquatic rivals were being used in experiments designed to purge aggressive behavior and reconstruct hostile survival-of-the-fittest instincts. Just imagine if that research could be applied to human beings. In fact, maybe Dharma was trying to turn the Utopian dream of John Lennon's 'Imagine' into a genetically engineered reality.''

And then I thought to myself, ''Nah! That's crazy talk, Doc! Bring it back down to plausible science. Clearly, what Dharma was really trying to do was... manufacture human/animal hybrids, just like The Island of Dr. Moreau!''

THEORY Think about the Others. Think about their cute, simple pet names. Ben. Tom. Juliet. Think about their bare feet, padding silently and easily through the jungle as if they were born to it. Think about ''Henry Gale,'' and how he links to The Wizard of Oz, which includes one of the most famous human/animal hybrids in pop culture, the Cowardly Lion.

In fact, the more you think about it, the more it makes sense that there's some kind of dark animal magic on Lost. Mr. Friendly/Tom could be part polar bear, a seemingly cuddly yet very dangerous predator. (Hence, why Kate isn't his ''type,'' and why he knows that it only took two hours for the bears to crack the food puzzle.) Henry Gale/Ben could be part shark, allegedly villainous but actually misunderstood. (Again: ''We're the good guys...'') And Juliet could be part dolphin, playful, empathic, and always coming to the rescue, like the way she reached out to Jack when he was drowning in flashback angst. Her Flipper-esque nature also explains her uneasy relationship with Ben; remember, dolphins and sharks don't mix. Just like ''Fire + Water,'' the title of the weirdest Lost episode ever (it was the one where Charlie was inexplicably overwhelmed by religiously tinged hallucinations), and the episode that just may explain all of this theoretical monkey business. During one of Charlie's flashback scenes, there was a visual reference to the cover art of Pink Floyd's Animals, a concept album inspired by George Orwell's Animal Farm. Now, we know that Dharma was doing experiments in zoology and parapsychology; perhaps the animals were test subjects for experiments in mind/body separation and consciousness transfer. In fact, Smokey the Monster — which roars like a bear, hunts like a shark, and thinks telepathically like a dolphin (or so some believe) — may have been the prototype for switch-and-mix hybrid engineering. (Further proof: according to the Map found in the Hatch, Dharma referred to Smokey as ''Cerberus,'' a mythic beast with three heads.)

According to The Lost Experience, the summertime Internet extravaganza produced by the show's creative team, Dharma's mission was to not only explore ways to improve mankind (see: Dr. Moreau), but more pressingly, to develop radical strategies to preserve the human species from impending self-destruction (think: Noah's Ark); perhaps Dharma was trying to download human consciousness into sea creatures in case one of Al Gore's awful inconvenient truths triggered another flood.

Regardless, it's possible that my animal-magic contention supersedes or possibly intersects with my previously stated Dharma-test-subject-uprising theory. Maybe the Hydra animals telepathically took control of the scientists. Or maybe they melded minds with the human test subjects and drove the scientists away. (According to an annotation on the Map of all the Dharma facilities found in the Hatch by John Locke, an unspecified entity inexplicably ''divested from the project in 1985''; could this entity be the Others?)

So why are these beastly Others obsessed with the Oceanic 815 castaways? Maybe it's an instinctively mandated Darwinian turf war. Maybe they want to transfer their consciousness into Jack, Kate, and Sawyer's stronger, younger bodies.

But I have a kinder, gentler theory: Maybe the Others represent a new kind of being, one that lives in harmony with nature. (The fact that they walk silently and barefoot through the jungle seems to suggest that they possess an animal's sense of ease in the jungle environment.) And maybe as such, they have something they want to teach our human castaways about living better, more enlightened lives. Yes, the Others do sometimes behave like rabid dogs... but really, they just want to be man's best friend.

ESTIMATED CHANCE OF BEING RIGHT Negative 99.999%


And then Theory #4 from episode last week:

4. WHAT'S THE TRUE PURPOSE OF KATE AND SAWYER'S FORCED LABOR?

LAST WEEK Unranked

ANALYSIS I don't for a second believe that the Others are really building anything on that plot of rocky land they have Kate and Sawyer clearing — unless it's a baby nursery. Or maybe the Others are pirates, and they're looking for buried treasure, and they're making Kate and Sawyer do the digging.

Or maybe we need to be parsing this along Biblically symbolic lines. Kate and Sawyer, both fugitives, are Adam and Eve after the Fall of Man. The rock quarry represents God's curse on mankind. And the Others represent the demanding yoke of Old Testament law, which required unquestioning obedience lest the Lord let loose with some of that great vengeance and furious anger of His.

I should just stick with the crazy disembodied-psychic theories, shouldn't I?

THEORY The Others want what Lost fans want — they wanna see Kate and Sawyer do it. And by ''it,'' I mean ''It.'' And by ''It,'' I mean, ''Unprotected It.'' That kiss between the two captives was no accident; the Others know perfectly well what kind of stimulating effect the sight of a hot and sweaty Kate in a revealing sundress would have on Sawyer. So why are the Others doing everything to create circumstances that will drive Kate and Sawyer toward each other, to push their love/hate relationship firmly on the side of love, to get them to finally do the deed?

Ratings.

Oh, and they need to get Kate knocked up. I'm guessing for some reason, the Others are incapable of reproducing. But because they are psychic animal/human hybrids (see last week's ''Animal Magic'' theory), they are instinctively driven toward survival and advancing the species. So they need babies to transfer their consciousness.

''Forced labor,'' indeed.

ESTIMATED CHANCE OF BEING RIGHT 108%. Like the Numbers, my logic is adding up... to something that makes absolutely no sense.

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by chiefsfan987

This is the first time since the show started that I'm not planning on watching. Lost is starting to lose my attention and is borderline slipping into suckville.... I think I'll watch Jericho instead.

I gave up on it quite a while ago. I think the writers are just making shit up as they go along.

[buddha]

It's clear that the Others have a very clear view on the relative "goodness" of the castaways. Jack has always been viewed as one of the good guys, while Kate and Sawyer are clearly "bad" in their real lives. Jack gets warm food and a clean cell, while the other two get treated like "animals" in every sense.

It appears that Jack will be able to cut a deal with Ben sometime in the near future. To what end is still very much in doubt, but it may involve integrations with the Others, or, at the very least, turning his back on his fellow castaways.

If we can trust Ben's comments from an earlier episode, he was born on this Island. I guess it's possible that he is a direct decendant from the original Dharma scientists...it's hard to get a real bead on his age. Perhaps Juliet and the others are also the children of those original Dharmans, but have either lost conviction for the mission of their parents, or that mission has changed.

They clearly have contacts off the island...the rich dude who was the father of Desmond's girlfriend (being one, and possibly others).

The only thing that has really bothered me about this season so far was Said's and Jin's stupidity in leaving the sailboat tied to the dock while they waited for the Others to walk into clear view by the giant bonfire! What writer thought that storyline had any plausibility? You have a crack soldier and a trained assassin and they would be THAT dumb? Never.

[beer bacon]

I guess I am just a big dope, but I still really like the show. The only major problem I have is with all the commercials, but ABC tends to do that with all their bigtime shows.

I am really happy to see badass hunter Locke better. I can't wait for Locke, Echo, and maybe ex-military Desmond to go **** the Others up.

[Baby Lee]

Any thoughts on the inscription Locke saw immediately after Adabeesi's boom stick hit him on the head.

Something along the lines of "lift your head to the North."