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Old 09-29-2018, 01:06 PM  
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Eric Berry has a Haglundís deformity on his heel

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https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

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Old 09-29-2018, 01:15 PM   #16
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Old 09-29-2018, 01:15 PM   #17
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He had similar heel pain last year prior to the Achilles, right? I’m guessing this has been there awhile.
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Old 09-29-2018, 01:16 PM   #18
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Old 09-29-2018, 01:18 PM   #21
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Old 09-29-2018, 01:19 PM   #22
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You'd think they could cut it open and file it down or something, then stitch it back up, wrap real good and rub some dirt on it. Good as new.
I had Osgood Schlatter's Disease in high school. It's bone growth on the shin bone up by the knee. It aggravates the patella tendon as well. Sounds similar to what Berry has.

They cut me open and shaved down the bone. I was out 4 weeks before playing again. I imagine that an athlete like Berry, with a superior medical staff, can shorten the recovery time by a few weeks.
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Old 09-29-2018, 01:20 PM   #23
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However the recovery period to obtain a maximum benefit following surgery is longer (6 months). The awareness for longer recovery period should be explained to the patients undergoing calcaneal ostectomy for Haglund deformity.
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Clark Hunt had to fly to KC to get it done because Dorsey pissed Berry off about the medical stuff. I guess Dorsey wanted some kind of medical insurance or something. I think part of the reason why Dorsey is gone is that he didn't want to give Berry and Houston the big contracts they were demanding. Andy Reid wanted to keep them, along with Maclin and Jamaal Charles.

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Id guess a lot about that surgery is how they have to go in to get at it. If up from bottom of foot I dont see how it would be a quick recovery.

I thought I read somewhere in that article a reporter had that same deformity while playing. The pain is always there you just have to deal with it. Different people have different pain thresholds.
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Our team doctors can't diagnose shit. Do we expect him to just play in a constant state of pain the rest of his career? Get him to have the surgery and fix this shit. If that doesn't work, figure out a way to get him off the team.
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Clark Hunt had to fly to KC to get it done because Dorsey pissed Berry off about the medical stuff. I guess Dorsey wanted some kind of medical insurance or something. I think part of the reason why Dorsey is gone is that he didn't want to give Berry and Houston the big contracts they were demanding. Andy Reid wanted to keep them, along with Maclin and Jamaal Charles.

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That makes for an interesting story. Is it documented, or is this hearsay?
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Old 09-29-2018, 01:32 PM   #29
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Our team doctors can't diagnose shit. Do we expect him to just play in a constant state of pain the rest of his career? Get him to have the surgery and fix this shit. If that doesn't work, figure out a way to get him off the team.
This.

I mentioned in a previous thread a pattern now of the Chiefs medical staff mismanaging the treatment/recovery of injuries to high profile players.

Justin Houston's knee injury... essentially hasn't been the same player since.

Jamaal Charles' second knee injury... essentially ended his career.

And now not previously diagnosing this chronic issue with Eric Berry's heel.
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