Chiefs With Sunday start for Chiefs, Quinn could reclaim his career. (KC Star) - Page 16

Marcellus · 10-10-2012, 07:45 PM

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star

By all rights, it shouldn’t be this way for Brady Quinn. He’s 27 and in his sixth NFL season, so as a former first-round draft pick he should not only have a team to call his own but be comfortably rooted as its starting quarterback.
It hasn’t worked that way for Quinn. But he will get a chance, perhaps a last chance, to resurrect his long-stalled career on Sunday when he will make his first start in almost three years, this one for the Chiefs against the Buccaneers in Tampa.
Quarterback Matt Cassel has not been medically cleared to participate and did not practice Wednesday. Coach Romeo Crennel didn’t rule Cassel out of Sunday’s game, but given that the NFL demands caution with players who have suffered a concussion, as Cassel did last week, that appears to be a formality.
So the Chiefs will go with Quinn, who played for a handful of snaps in relief of the injured Cassel toward the end of last week’s game against Baltimore.
“This is his opportunity to reclaim his career,” said Shawn Zobel, who runs a draft website at DraftHeadquarters.com. Zobel thought enough of Quinn when he came out of Notre Dame in 2007 that he could have been the overall No. 1 pick.
“He’s only 27. So he’s got that going for him. When you think about it from that perspective, he’s younger than (Cleveland rookie quarterback) Brandon Weeden.”
Cassel was at the practice facility Wednesday, but only briefly. He did not attend practice.
“He came into the building today,” Crennel said. “He was not here long. Concussions, they want you to rest, take your time with it.
“He’s been getting a series of tests as it relates to the concussion and he’s been seeing the doctors. I think he’s getting better but you know the league is very serious and cautious about concussions and how about how to handle them so we have to follow procedures on that as we go forward.”
So the Chiefs will go with Quinn on Sunday. While that prospect doesn’t sound exciting to at least some NFL teams — in the past three years, Quinn has been discarded by the Browns, couldn’t get off the bench for the Broncos and not good enough to replace a struggling Cassel for the Chiefs — at one time it would have been.
He was a first-round pick in 2007 of the Browns, then coached by Crennel. He spent two seasons with Cleveland under Crennel, making only three starts, and one year after Crennel was fired, making nine starts.
He was then traded to Denver, where he spent two years buried on the bench behind Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow. He joined the Chiefs as a free agent this year. That’s hardly the career predicted for Quinn when he left Notre Dame.
“I know when I went into Notre Dame, they’d had a couple .500 seasons, or right about that, and I know that we went to two BCS games in the first two years that I was at Notre Dame and one of the main reasons was Brady Quinn,” said Kansas’ Charlie Weis, Quinn’s coach at the end of his Irish career. “And when he left, I told the people, the fans and everyone that you’re really going to miss this kid when he’s gone. And we went 3-9 the next year. So there’s a lot to say for what that kid did for Notre Dame when I was there. We won a lot of football games and he carried the torch. He was clearly the leader.”
Sunday’s game gives Quinn a chance to reestablish his career. Cassel left the lineup because of injury, but was playing so poorly that the Chiefs couldn’t afford to yank Quinn if he plays well during his trial as the starter.
But Quinn wouldn’t acknowledge that on Wednesday.
“There is no bigger picture,” he said. “Tampa is a good team. We’ve got a big challenge ahead of us. There’s no need for me or anyone else to be looking further than this week or even tomorrow’s preparation.”
Yet Quinn also admitted his emotions stirred when he replaced Cassel last week, the first time he’s played in the regular season since December 2009. He said he expected them to do so on Sunday as well.
Since he was Cleveland’s coach when Quinn was drafted, it’s reasonable to believe the quarterback is a favorite of Crennel’s. He didn’t sound on Wednesday as if he had a lot of confidence in Quinn.
“I hope the fact that he understands the offense and understands the system (means) he will be able to step in and be productive,” Crennel said. “He’s got some height, he’s got experience, he can throw the ball down the field, he can throw it intermediate. He has a good command of the offense. He knows what’s expected. He knows the calls and can get us into plays, out of plays.
“Now he has to go execute.” (Unlike CAssel?)

Quinn didn’t play at all as a rookie and started only three games the next season. He lost the rest of that season with a finger injury.
“He was a good talent coming out,” Crennel said. “There’s no doubt about it. He was a productive quarterback and had command of the offense that he ran up at Notre Dame and the weapons he had with him.
“When he got to us, we didn’t have quite as many weapons as he had there at Notre Dame and he was learning a new system and so he wasn’t quite as effective as he had been at Notre Dame. Then he got hurt also. That impacted his development. That made it tough to make a solid evaluation of him.”
Quinn remained with the Browns for one more year after Crennel was fired. His coordinator that season was Brian Daboll, now with the Chiefs. Daboll was unavailable for comment Wednesday but Crennel said, remarkably, that he never asked Daboll what he thought of Quinn before the Chiefs signed him.
The Chiefs are hopeful the Browns were wrong on giving up on Quinn so quickly.
“He was only there for three years,” Zobel said. “To me, when a guy gets drafted in the first round and didn’t play a down his first year and starts only three games his second year and then nine the next year, there’s no way to make a good evaluation on him. It just wasn’t a good mix of talent there. That wasn’t a great situation there.
“He never got a fair shake with the Browns. It never got off on the right foot. That’s not how a team should allow a young guy to develop. You should put him out there and let him take his lumps and learn from them. He never had that opportunity.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/10...#storylink=cpy

The 2 bold parts just make you go WTF.

I know this has been discussed but considering how little time Quinn has had on the field why do so many people think he sucks?

kaplin42 · 10-12-2012, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I hope Quinn gets broke in half or fails just as bad as Cassel...

I dont want false hope in the fanbase or for Pioli to retain his role by any success by Quinn...

But also Quinn blows ass, so we shouldnt havent much to worry about.

This is where the thread should have been locked. Quinn is not the answer, rooting for him is just going to get us 3 more years of epic mediocrity. Yes, he's not Cassel, but really this is the difference between shit, and shit with peanuts.

splatbass · 10-12-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Nothing good can come from Quinn playing well. He playing well = Extension...

Some day I want to watch my team win a Super Bowl. My other dream, and even more of a long shot, is that someday I want to see you actually want your team to win. I'm not sure the latter is even possible.

**notorious** · 10-12-2012, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Extension's already happened. No doubt about it.

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

what about the rumors of Pioli signing an extension?

if thats true we're up shit creek with a paddle.

I think he has signed an extension, but Clark is scared shittless after the past weekend to announce the news due to the fallout that would occur.

Wait until we win a game, and the announcement will come the next day.

LiL stumppy · 10-12-2012, 08:54 AM

Quinn is not that horrible. He never had a real shot, with an awful team. I think he will come in and be solid, we will go 8 and 8, draft a qb and they will compete for the starting job next season.

Quinns 3 passes looked better than any throw Cashole has add all year. Lol

This is not what I am hoping for, just an assumption.

Reerun_KC · 10-12-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

I think he has signed an extension, but Clark is scared shittless after the past weekend to announce the news due to the fallout that would occur.

Wait until we win a game, and the announcement will come the next day.

He announces it anytime between now and opening day of 2013 and it will be a shit storm.

We need to stay on top of this and keep our banners flying. Extension = Betrayal......

Reerun_KC · 10-12-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Quinn is not that horrible. He never had a real shot, with an awful team. I think he will come in and be solid, we will go 8 and 8, draft a qb and they will compete for the starting job next season.

Quinns 3 passes looked better than any throw Cashole has add all year. Lol

This is not what I am hoping for, just an assumption.

He is getting a shot with an awful team.. Yes he is that horrible. hell even Claythan has posted video evidence and fans are still ostriching it...

Hammock Parties · 10-12-2012, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Me too...

Quinn in his last season was 4 of 35 in passes beyond 20+ yards with 5 picks...

His 11-20 is garbage, too.

durtyrute · 10-12-2012, 09:04 AM

Why is there no middle ground on cp? If you think Quinn can come in and do okay, that means you think he'll start forever and we won't draft a QB. If you think Stanzi should get playing time, that means you think he is the next Tom Brady. Why can't we cheer for our qB's, not named Cassel, to succed AND want to draft a QB?

Pasta Little Brioni · 10-12-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute

Why is there no middle ground on cp? If you think Quinn can come in and do okay, that means you think he'll start forever and we won't draft a QB. If you think Stanzi should get playing time, that means you think he is the next Tom Brady. Why can't we cheer for our qB's, not named Cassel, to succed AND want to draft a QB?

Too many simple minded folks posting here.

**Rausch** · 10-12-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute

Why is there no middle ground on cp? If you think Quinn can come in and do okay, that means you think he'll start forever and we won't draft a QB. If you think Stanzi should get playing time, that means you think he is the next Tom Brady. Why can't we cheer for our qB's, not named Cassel, to succed AND want to draft a QB?

Conspiracy theories and nonsense.

If Pioli goes we have a good chance of drafting our own QB and the new GM won't give a frog's fart in high wind about Ca$$hole...

King_Chief_Fan · 10-12-2012, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Conspiracy theories and nonsense.

If Pioli goes we have a good chance of drafting our own QB and the new GM won't give a frog's fart in high wind about Ca$$hole...

or quinn or stanzi........ I want everything Pioli that is QB related off this team

**Rausch** · 10-12-2012, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

or quinn or stanzi........ I want everything Pioli that is QB related off this team

I think the only person with a legit shot at staying on the roster is Brady and that's only if he's ok with being no 2 or 3...

durtyrute · 10-12-2012, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Conspiracy theories and nonsense.

If Pioli goes we have a good chance of drafting our own QB and the new GM won't give a frog's fart in high wind about Ca$$hole...

I'm not holding my breath on Pioli going anywhere. I can understand the fact that if Quinn does okay then Pioli will be able to say, "see, I brought him in." But, that also means Cassel ass will be gone and for me that is numero uno on the things I want to fix.

Reerun_KC · 10-12-2012, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

or quinn or stanzi........ I want everything Pioli that is QB related off this team

This...

I want Pioli, Coaching staff and all 3 QB's MOTHER ****ING GONE FROM THE CITY AND FRANCHISE...

CoMoChief · 10-12-2012, 09:16 AM

Best case scenario

Cassel and Stanzi are cut
Quinn plays decent and decides to stay w/ KC
We sign vet QB for backup competition
Draft Geno Smith

10-10-2012, 07:45 PM
Marcellus Diablo Negro Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $3172662	With Sunday start for Chiefs, Quinn could reclaim his career. (KC Star) By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star By all rights, it shouldn’t be this way for Brady Quinn. He’s 27 and in his sixth NFL season, so as a former first-round draft pick he should not only have a team to call his own but be comfortably rooted as its starting quarterback. It hasn’t worked that way for Quinn. But he will get a chance, perhaps a last chance, to resurrect his long-stalled career on Sunday when he will make his first start in almost three years, this one for the Chiefs against the Buccaneers in Tampa. Quarterback Matt Cassel has not been medically cleared to participate and did not practice Wednesday. Coach Romeo Crennel didn’t rule Cassel out of Sunday’s game, but given that the NFL demands caution with players who have suffered a concussion, as Cassel did last week, that appears to be a formality. So the Chiefs will go with Quinn, who played for a handful of snaps in relief of the injured Cassel toward the end of last week’s game against Baltimore. “This is his opportunity to reclaim his career,” said Shawn Zobel, who runs a draft website at DraftHeadquarters.com. Zobel thought enough of Quinn when he came out of Notre Dame in 2007 that he could have been the overall No. 1 pick. “He’s only 27. So he’s got that going for him. When you think about it from that perspective, he’s younger than (Cleveland rookie quarterback) Brandon Weeden.” Cassel was at the practice facility Wednesday, but only briefly. He did not attend practice. “He came into the building today,” Crennel said. “He was not here long. Concussions, they want you to rest, take your time with it. “He’s been getting a series of tests as it relates to the concussion and he’s been seeing the doctors. I think he’s getting better but you know the league is very serious and cautious about concussions and how about how to handle them so we have to follow procedures on that as we go forward.” So the Chiefs will go with Quinn on Sunday. While that prospect doesn’t sound exciting to at least some NFL teams — in the past three years, Quinn has been discarded by the Browns, couldn’t get off the bench for the Broncos and not good enough to replace a struggling Cassel for the Chiefs — at one time it would have been. He was a first-round pick in 2007 of the Browns, then coached by Crennel. He spent two seasons with Cleveland under Crennel, making only three starts, and one year after Crennel was fired, making nine starts. He was then traded to Denver, where he spent two years buried on the bench behind Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow. He joined the Chiefs as a free agent this year. That’s hardly the career predicted for Quinn when he left Notre Dame. “I know when I went into Notre Dame, they’d had a couple .500 seasons, or right about that, and I know that we went to two BCS games in the first two years that I was at Notre Dame and one of the main reasons was Brady Quinn,” said Kansas’ Charlie Weis, Quinn’s coach at the end of his Irish career. “And when he left, I told the people, the fans and everyone that you’re really going to miss this kid when he’s gone. And we went 3-9 the next year. So there’s a lot to say for what that kid did for Notre Dame when I was there. We won a lot of football games and he carried the torch. He was clearly the leader.” Sunday’s game gives Quinn a chance to reestablish his career. Cassel left the lineup because of injury, but was playing so poorly that the Chiefs couldn’t afford to yank Quinn if he plays well during his trial as the starter. But Quinn wouldn’t acknowledge that on Wednesday. “There is no bigger picture,” he said. “Tampa is a good team. We’ve got a big challenge ahead of us. There’s no need for me or anyone else to be looking further than this week or even tomorrow’s preparation.” Yet Quinn also admitted his emotions stirred when he replaced Cassel last week, the first time he’s played in the regular season since December 2009. He said he expected them to do so on Sunday as well. Since he was Cleveland’s coach when Quinn was drafted, it’s reasonable to believe the quarterback is a favorite of Crennel’s. He didn’t sound on Wednesday as if he had a lot of confidence in Quinn. “I hope the fact that he understands the offense and understands the system (means) he will be able to step in and be productive,” Crennel said. “He’s got some height, he’s got experience, he can throw the ball down the field, he can throw it intermediate. He has a good command of the offense. He knows what’s expected. He knows the calls and can get us into plays, out of plays. “Now he has to go execute.” (Unlike CAssel?) Quinn didn’t play at all as a rookie and started only three games the next season. He lost the rest of that season with a finger injury. “He was a good talent coming out,” Crennel said. “There’s no doubt about it. He was a productive quarterback and had command of the offense that he ran up at Notre Dame and the weapons he had with him. “When he got to us, we didn’t have quite as many weapons as he had there at Notre Dame and he was learning a new system and so he wasn’t quite as effective as he had been at Notre Dame. Then he got hurt also. That impacted his development. That made it tough to make a solid evaluation of him.” Quinn remained with the Browns for one more year after Crennel was fired. His coordinator that season was Brian Daboll, now with the Chiefs. Daboll was unavailable for comment Wednesday but Crennel said, remarkably, that he never asked Daboll what he thought of Quinn before the Chiefs signed him. The Chiefs are hopeful the Browns were wrong on giving up on Quinn so quickly. “He was only there for three years,” Zobel said. “To me, when a guy gets drafted in the first round and didn’t play a down his first year and starts only three games his second year and then nine the next year, there’s no way to make a good evaluation on him. It just wasn’t a good mix of talent there. That wasn’t a great situation there. “He never got a fair shake with the Browns. It never got off on the right foot. That’s not how a team should allow a young guy to develop. You should put him out there and let him take his lumps and learn from them. He never had that opportunity.” Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/10...#storylink=cpy The 2 bold parts just make you go WTF. I know this has been discussed but considering how little time Quinn has had on the field why do so many people think he sucks?
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LiL stumppy 62-21 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Casino cash: $9953684	Quinn is not that horrible. He never had a real shot, with an awful team. I think he will come in and be solid, we will go 8 and 8, draft a qb and they will compete for the starting job next season. Quinns 3 passes looked better than any throw Cashole has add all year. Lol This is not what I am hoping for, just an assumption. __________________ I'm just cakn partna
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durtyrute MVP Join Date: Mar 2011 Casino cash: $8326085	Why is there no middle ground on cp? If you think Quinn can come in and do okay, that means you think he'll start forever and we won't draft a QB. If you think Stanzi should get playing time, that means you think he is the next Tom Brady. Why can't we cheer for our qB's, not named Cassel, to succed AND want to draft a QB?
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